Whats the best gun for this situation?

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by Xelazaughra, Sep 26, 2012.

  1. Xelazaughra

    Xelazaughra New Member

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    I'm trying to get my girlfriend into the whole firearms thing. I've let her try racking the slide on multiple semi-auto handguns but she just doesn't have quite enough strength to camber a round. So I'm thinking a revolver would be an easy fix, but with so many options to choose from which route should we take? I've seen the S&W Bodyguard .38 special. I like the no hammer concept. What else might we try?
     
  2. sputnik1988

    sputnik1988 Active Member

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    The Ruger SR22 would do nicely, it is very easy to chamber and the training would cross over well for other semi auto's.

    My GF loves her's, I did a short write up on it here.
    http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f21/first-impressions-ruger-sr22-pistol-70699/
     

  3. tCan

    tCan Active Member

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    What about a medium sized .380? It's mild to shoot, and it could double as a carry gun. I like the 38 special too for this purpose. Heratage arms makes a Single Action 22 revolver that's quite inexpensive.

    If you have the option though, put her behind a rifle first. The first rifle I shot was a .30-30 and it was a wallop, but it was fun because I could actually hit **** with it.
     
  4. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    I would not buy anything without first having her shoot as many as you can manage to find available. One of them will resonate with her for whatever reason. I always start them off with a .22 (both revolver and semi-auto) and work them up in caliber whatever I have available. The .380 is a great choice, as is a .38 Special. You never know, she might like a .40!

    FYI, if you have her work with a semi-auto that has had 1000 rounds or so through it you will find that the slide is easier to operate when they are well broken in.
     
  5. mudpupp

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  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    While I carry a J frame S&W, those little pocket guns have a LOT of felt recoil- and may not be the best gun for a novice shooter-

    A Ruger 22 pistol may be a good first gun- easy to rack, accurate as hell, very mild recoil.

    As far as racking the slide on what you already have, have HER watch this-

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbayNc6D9HY[/ame]
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    When racking a slide, sometimes it is easier to "push" the lower with the dominate hand than "pull" the slide with the non-dominate hand.

    I have a S&W Mdl 12 (lightweight frame) in .38 Special. With the 130 gr bullets, it is very manageable with recoil. I cannot fire +P rounds in it, but I'm okay with that.
     
  8. JohnJak

    JohnJak New Member

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    Buy the gun for her and not you. Revolver is manageable with recoil with the proper load.
     
  9. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I think a revolver is a very good first gun. It's mechanism is so much simpler and less intimidating. You open the cylinder and know right away if it's unloaded. No forgetting anything that could put you in danger. My first gun was a GP100 but that may be a little more kick than she's ready for. As others have said, let her try a few out and decide what she likes.

    As I got more familiar and less intimidated by guns, I was able to rack slides better. I realized I'd have to quit being dainty and just rack the darned thing. I do use the method shown in the video C3 posted. As I get older my hands are becoming weaker.
     
  10. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    A 38 special would be good if she has a lot of trigger time on a 22
    If she has no experience a ruger single 10, single six convertible, or the new single 9 would all be great starter guns.
     
  11. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    if shes completely new to the firearm scene start with this order:
    .22 rifle
    AR-15
    .22 pistol
    then a larger caliber pistol of her choosing

    you need to start slow, so she can at least learn proper, safe shooting techniques and get used to the idea that guns aren't going to hurt her or make her flinch. after that then you can let HER decide what she wants to try next. my wife often watches me shoot something first so she can see how its going to react. like how much recoil, report it has and how i handle it. then she decides if she wants to try it.

    using this method she went from slightly scaredof guns but tolerable of me having them to going and buying her own, and going shooting at the range all by herself.
    shes is learning pistols right now as thats a little harder but witha rifles she loves it because she actually hits what shes aiming at and that is always a great confidence builder.
     
  12. drvsafe

    drvsafe New Member

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    How about a beretta tomcat or bobcat. They are available in .22, .25, or .32. They are small frame pocket semi auto pistols that have a tip up barrel so you do t need to rack the slide to load a round, just tip up the barrel and you're good to go.
     
  13. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    IMO, I would get something physically larger. The sight radius is longer and builds confidence faster.
     
  14. gunsmoke11

    gunsmoke11 New Member

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    Pick her up a used S&W model 10 4" heavy barrel 38 special. I watched most police women shooting them for almost 20 years with few having any problems. The real small women used the round butt with 3" barrel. Giving her an auto, regardless of the calibre, as a first gun is not very safe and holds true for a guy as well. Also, the heavy barrel will reduce recoil and with standard 148 grain wadcutters should be easy getting used to. This was my service revolver that I've been shooting since the late 60's.
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  15. Eturnsdale

    Eturnsdale New Member

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    Ive got to parrot what many have said by saying that wheel guns can be great carry pieces for new shooters.

    But I will also say that even if she lacks the hand and grip strength to rack the slide the way most men do, does not mean that she can not work the action properly. You just have to have her go about it differently.

    Instead of having her simply hold the grip in one hand and work the slide by pulling back with the other hand, have her hold the piece in front of her with it aimed down range, and while she pulls back, push with the other hand. Twice the force, half the work.
     
  16. genesis

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    I had the same problem with my 67 year old girl friend. Great bod, no strength. She couldn't rack the slide on my Ruger SR40C, but she truly enjoyed shooting. So she shot my Ruger GP100 a lot and wanted her own gun. We ended up getting her a Ruger LCR 38 special ($399), not the 357 ($499). It is one sweet gun and really fun to shoot. We've put over 2000 rounds through it in 2 months. I reload for both of us, but it was tough keeping up as we were practicing defensive drills so much. I have a shooting range on my property so we shoot A LOT ! So we also get her a Ruger LCR 22 ($449). Now there's a very practical monetary reason for owning two Ruger LCR's in 22 and 38 caliber. This point is covered in one of the below videos.

    The LCR 38 Special is light as a potato chip, reliable as dirt, butter smooth trigger, and accurate as all heck. I use to compete in combat pistol matches and bowling pin shoots. And, I'm a retired teacher, so I taught her how to shoot her new guns. She's deadly and quick on pie plates at 21 feet. Don't believe the myth that a mouse gun or a snubby is hard to shoot or inaccurate. It just takes some "proper and patient training". The nice thing about a revolver is there are no safeties or malfunctions to deal with. Ya pull the trigger and it goes BANG! My girl friend shoots her LCR 22 about 75% of the time and her LCR 38 Special about 25% of the time. They're almost exactly the same so she builds muscle memory with either gun. She just loves them both. My girl friend preferred the stock grips on both guns over any of the aftermarket grips. The 38 is her bedside gun and the 22 is her New York reload. Don't get all caught up in the power or caliber thing. Hornady Critical Defense 38 Special ammo will get the job done with plenty of authority. (But practice with the cheap stuff.)

    Truth be told, there are a whole bunch of nice guns which your girl friend could handle just fine, so it just boils down to her personal preference. But I can only relate my personal and very extensive experience with the LCR in 22 and 38 caliber. Just get her what ever she wants and can handle, which might be different then what you want her to have.

    One further note. I'm not a believer in laser sights as they're no substitute for good marksmanship skills. But that's just me. Others may have a different opinion of them. My girl friend does just fine without one. She can out shoot almost all guys because they don't practice, and she does, A LOT ! And I really mean A LOT because she just loves the shooting sport. She can easily go through a box of 500 22's in two days. Now that's cheap practice ! ! ! As mentioned in the video, when practicing with the 22, load it with just 5 rounds (it holds 8), as that's all you'd have in the 38.

    Watch the vids and notice how little the 38 recoils in the top video. Unlike a lot of guns in this genre, it's grip completely encases the back strap and there's a blue spongy material inside the grip which covers the backstrap and really helps to reduce the felt recoil. Also notice it's long range accuracy. Before you buy anything, go to youtube and do a search on any gun you're interested in. You will find a ton of really excellent gun review videos, including concealed carry for women.

    Happy shooting and Semper Fi

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  17. Xelazaughra

    Xelazaughra New Member

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    Let me add that she is 5'2" about 110 pounds. I don't know if that makes a significant difference as to what firearms would best suit her.
     
  18. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    As has been said, physically larger firearms generally will have less felt recoil with similar ammunition. Of course, she has to be able to lift it and hold it on target. She should try a variety at a range with rentals if possible. If you have to pick one for her, it would be like trying to pick a bra she would really like, long odds. I do love the soft shooting of my GP100 with .38 target loads, but with its 6" barrel, it might be left as the "range gun" should she want to concealed carry.
     
  19. Old_Crow

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    I would get her a model 60 marlin. let her get the basics down. I have never had anyone say no when I asked if I could shoot their gun a few times. after a while she will shoot a gun she likes. My wife is pretty small after she got some experience her favorite gun is a ruger blackhawk chambered in 357 with a 6.5" barrel. I know very small woman that carries a judge chambered in 454 casull. She shoots it a lot. She has a LCP she carries when she is dressed for a night on the town.
     
  20. therewolf

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    OK, I'm a geezer, but I agree with OC.

    Start her on 22LRs. Rifles and pistols with some weight to

    them, till she gets accustomed to shooting and recoil.

    But let her select her own pistol, after she's

    tried a lot of alternatives.