What's safer to carry?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by Gojubrian, Jun 7, 2009.

  1. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    A 1911 or polymer like glock or xd?

    1911's have the grip safety, but so does xd. Can you carry a round in chamber safely with a 1911?

    I've never had a 1911, so I'm really not sure. I've just heard stories, and everyone's is different. :eek:
     
  2. Dgunsmith

    Dgunsmith New Member

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    Finger off the trigger until on target and ready to shoot...equally safe.

    the 1911 is best carried as designed, condition 1..chamber loaded, cocked and locked. When drawn, thumb safety down..ready to fire. To reholster, thumb safety up and reholster.

    Striker fired Glock or XDM no need to manually operate safety except pull the trigger. XDM grip safety will automatically do its job as you grip the pistol.

    1911's need more practice to develope muscle memory of function steps until is all comes naturally.

    Poly frames usually lighter in weight and higher capacity magazines but a wider grip.

    Hope that helps !
     

  3. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    The 1911 is the safest pistol to carry in Condition 1 - which is a loaded round in the chamber, hammer back, and ready to rock.

    The 1911 has three safeties. An internal firing pin block, an external frame mounted safety ( The way God and JMB intended it to be ) and a grip safety. All three need to be disengaged for the weapon to fire.

    If the comparison needs to be made for your own personal satisfaction, then you will need to explore that for yourself.

    The XD, with the frame mounted safety, is a great step forward over the first and second generation polymer pistols - but they have a LONG way to go to improve over a design that has stood the test of over 100 years of battle proven, knocking enemies d**ks in the dirt, reliability.

    In my mind & that of many others, there is the 1911, and then there is everything else.

    JD
     
  4. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    Always remember, safety is between yours ears, first and foremost. A safety is a mechanical device that can and will fail. A safety should never be a substitute for safe firearm handling. My Glock is only a safe as I am.
     
  5. Water-Man

    Water-Man New Member

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    Keep your finger off the trigger!
     
  6. WDB

    WDB New Member

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    With out question the 1911 offers far more safety features than any polly frame pistol. With that said the #1 safety is our finger, keep it off the trigger until your ready to fire. I carry a S&W M&P in condition 1 and believe it to be safe as I keep my finger clear off the trigger until I'm ready to fire. No matter what firearm you shoot this has to be something you learn from the start.
     
  7. hydrashok

    hydrashok New Member

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    +1

    Negligent Discharges (formerly known as accidental discharges) are almost always caused by user error.

    I recently read an awesome article about slick slides vs. manual safeties. There have been officer lives saved because the BG got their gun, aimed, and pulled the trigger, but the gun didn't fire because the BG couldn't figure out how to disengage the mechanical safety. The time lapse was enough for either the officer to dispatch the BG with a backup weapon or allow another officer to neutralize the threat. There have also been a few slick slides go off while reholstering due to the trigger catching on something. A Glock went off when an officer went to go poopie and he was hanging his duty weapon on the coathook in the stall. :eek:

    While I like the sexy Glock 21 with the mounted streamlight TLR-1 in my thigh rig for tactical operations and training, I carry my Charles Daly Combat Commander (Colt copy) cocked and locked for everyday concealed carry.
     
  8. UnderFire

    UnderFire New Member

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    yeah, I would have to agree that a 1911 is the safest carry
    weapon even locked & loaded.
     
  9. jeepcreep927

    jeepcreep927 New Member

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    +10, well stated hunter Joe.
     
  10. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    JD, I do believe that you could make the case that the 1911 is the best poker player of any handgun ever invented!! :) ""Which semi-auto has the best singing voice?"
     
  11. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    JD, you can get an XD45 with 3 safeties as well. Trigger, grip and thrumb safety which I believe was offered for LEO that required a thumb safety.
     
  12. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    That is true - however they are over 100 years late to the party, so just because they can copy an idea, and make it plastic, doesn't give them bragging rights. :D
     
  13. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    :)

    You know, I never thought of such an argument, but 1911 is my final answer. :D
     
  14. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Better late then never and in the world of polymer it's the best gun out there right now.

    ps. I'm shopping for a 1911 now and trying to convince Mrs. Spittinfire how much it is needed. I may have to sell my 9....