What's happening to other "black' rifles?

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by rachilders, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. rachilders

    rachilders New Member

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    I keep hearing about the current AR rifle shortage but scarcely a word about other black rifles like the AK variants, SIGs, HK's, FAL's and so forth or non military designs like the Kel-Tecs. While most of these non AR style rifles usually sell for more than the AR's, that seems to have been offset by the rise in AR prices in the past week or two. Seems this would be the time to buy them since AR's are on six month to a year back order from suppliers/manufacturers and those AR's you can find are now selling for a major premium!
     
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  2. mudpupp

    mudpupp New Member

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    When are my Mini 14 with 30 round mags, or

    My Mini 30 with 20 round magazine

    gonna go thru the roof price wise.

    I want to sell them for ridiculous prices so that when the dust settles I can afford a tactical Springfield Armory M1A and have enough left over for a new Trijicon for it ..

    Lol
     

  3. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    my Ruger 10/22 is black. Has a 25 round magazine, instills fear into squirrels and the un-informed
     
  4. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    My mom thought my son's 10/22 with the pistol grip stock and 25 round mag was an assault rifle. :eek:
     
  5. 1regularguy

    1regularguy New Member

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    I have a Sig 556 Classic SWAT, that I purchased two years ago at $1050.00.
    I also have a Sig P556 SWAT, that I purchased for $1100.00 last month before the school shooting. I check prices for these two firearms on gunbroker and the prices for both where a minimum of $500.00 increase.
     
  6. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    SCAR 17s went from approx $2700 to approx $4000
     
  7. rachilders

    rachilders New Member

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    I was checking online prices earlier today. I purchased a M&P-15 Sport the day before the Newtown shootings 2 weeks ago for $600 NIB. They are currently selling on gun sites like Gunbroker and Bud's for a "Purchase Now" price of $1,700-$1,800 and actual bids are well over a $1,000. That markup is better than the gold and oil rates! I'm glad I have two of them along with a few other models I got when the prices were still below MSRP.

    FWIW, I believe many of the rifles purchased in the past 10 days were by "scalpers" and/or speculators hoping the price will run up due to panic buying and they're trying to cash in. Even my S&W 15-22 has gone from $400 to $600 and it's a .22! I can only imagine what they will cost if any sort of AWB is ever really enacted. Now all I want to know is why is all the ammo going off the shelves? Is this becoming one of those manufactured shortages caused by the few who want to cash in? I suppose it's like a certain Obama adviser one said, "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste".
    :eek:
     
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  8. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    If you were to plop george washington's own musket from the revolutionary war in front of a msnbc retard reporter they immediatel start frothing at the mouth about banning that evil ar15 that just hit the desk.

    They dont care if it shoots 100,000 bullets in a second or 1 bullet a year its all ar15 or ak47 and must be banned.
     
  9. Squawk

    Squawk New Member

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    That is sad. Because it is true.
     
  10. bigrock44

    bigrock44 New Member

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    I am just glad that I have as many firearms as I do now. I am not trying to purchase anything during this "ban"........ The only sad part about any ban is that the criminals will always find a way to get all the firearms they want no matter what the price is.
     
  11. nfafan

    nfafan New Member

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    Can't say for sure in a model-by-model rundown, but every "LGS" that I've visited over the past 2 weeks has been decimated of "EBRs" - including Min-14s.

    I did actually find one shop that had a high-end Colt LE-something, a sporty SAIGA in 762x39, a sporty SAIGA in .308, plus a couple Springfield M1As. They were also selling aluminum "GI" AR 30rd mags for $30.00, and 30rd PMAGs or $30.00-$50.00 depending on window or generations.

    Speaking of Mini-14s - if you have an old Mini series 181 that you would be willing to do a FTF-only trade for a minty sporty SAIGA 7.62x39 in West PA - please PM me.
     
  12. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Mini's will be on the list.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. rachilders

    rachilders New Member

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    As much as I'd like to think any new AWB that's being discussed won't have an effect on them, I seriously believe even classic western style firearms like revolvers and lever guns will eventually be on the chopping block if it passes. As soon as gun control groups get a ban on hi-cap rifles and pistols, the next step will be a ban on pumps, levers and revolvers since we all know a good shot - like Jerry Miculek or Lucas McCain from The Rifleman :D - can accurately shoot a pump or revolver as quickly (or quicker) than 99% of us shoot a semi-auto rifle or pistol.

    The ultimate goal of hardcore gun control advocates is to turn the U.S. into another Australia and Great Britain. Essentially, only single shot or double barreled shotguns and possibly bolt action rifles will be allowed for the common citizen. Sadly, in the example of GB it won't stop with firearms. While it's a tired old saying, the sad truth is when we outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have the guns! :(
     
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  14. nfafan

    nfafan New Member

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    Absolutely true. They will take the position that "we wouldn't have robberies if guns were not so concealable".
    Your SAA will only be legal with an 8" bbl. And nothing smaller than a 1911.