What to do when you're stopped by the police and carrying...

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by HighSpeed, Nov 26, 2010.

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  1. HighSpeed

    HighSpeed New Member

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    I searched and didn't see this topic come up, and since on the other forums that I've visited this question always comes up I figured I'd post about it...

    Now, I am an avid gun enthusiast, some could even say a gun nut. Most of the guys I work with are too, so don't think we are all against armed citizens. I fully support concealed permits and believe everyone should get one.

    As a LEO, we don't like surprises. Usually, if you're being pulled over, we already know whether or not you have a permit if we run your plates. Sometimes it doesn't show up due reasons unbeknown to me. Either way, it pays to announce if you have a permit and whether you are carrying or not; it helps put the officer at ease.

    Generally, if you are being pulled over, we appreciate if you turn your interior light on before we get to your car. This is not required by law in our state, but allows us to see that you are not hiding something. When we make our introduction, please please please keep your hands on the wheel and say "I have a carry permit in my wallet and I have my weapon (insert location here but do not reach for it) or I do not have my weapon. This will go a long way with cops. 1) It lets us know you are legally carrying and at the very least lawfully able to get a permit. 2) It helps make a stressful situation less stressful.

    At this point, please be cooperative to what the cop asks you to do. Each cop will have a different approach depending on the situation; some may ask you to step out, etc. We're not trying to be jerks about the situation, please realize we just want to go home at the end of our shift.

    In most of the contacts I've had, I've spent more time talking about choice of carry guns then the actual reason for being pulled over. I also am not a traffic Nazi, so you really have to do something egregious for me to write a ticket... Likewise, I have yet to encounter someone who is legally carrying a gun to have been a complete jerk, and I hope to keep that streak going.

    If this has been posted before, then you have my apologies. I used the search and didn't find the topic...
     
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  2. BEYU

    BEYU New Member

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    Thanks for the useful info. I have a CCW in two different states, and I did not realize that a license plate check would make that known to a police officer when making a stop. I will take that into consideration when I do get stopped, something that does not happen very often, I might add.
     

  3. JonM

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    back in texas when i lived there and did the ccw thing the few times i was stopped i handed over my DL and CCW. i didnt hand the gun over or even offer to show it or where it was until the officer asked.

    had an officer one instance try to clear my pistol with it pointed at his belly...
     
  4. c3shooter

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    Good info. A 10-28 of my plates gets you nothing but the name of the leasing company. I DO run into license or DUI checkpoints now and again- I have my DL and my CCW permit together, interior light on if at night, and simply say "Good evening officer (trooper, deputy, etc) Concealed weapons license holder- and hand them both together. Some states (not my home state) REQUIRE that you advise the LEO if you are carrying.

    I have seen some folks recommend that you say nothing- but I figure why the hell would I want to spike someone's blood pressure, and get the barrel of a SIG stuck in my ear for scaring the guy out of a month's growth?

    Only response I have ever had has been "Appreciate you letting us know. Have a great evening."

    The funny one was not a LEO, but airport security- at the parking garage. EARLY morning flight- as I was pulling up to the gate at the parking garage, uniformed security officer was stopping each car. Rolled down window- "Good morning, sir. Do you have any weapons in the vehicle?" " Yes" Stunned silence. " Are...are they in the trunk?" "No." More stunned silence. "I am a concealed weapons permit holder. There is a sidearm on my belt, left side. Here is my permit." Puzzled examination. " Do...do you have any weapons in the trunk?" "No. Want to look? I'll pop the trunk." Opened trunk, he took a glance at the HUGE pile of crap in my trunk, closed it, said thank you.

    I felt SO much safer after that. :rolleyes:
     
  5. HighSpeed

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    Can't say this is the case for all states, but in Ohio we can see if you are an active or recently expired CCW holder.

    ETA: when running plates.
     
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  6. JonM

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    wonder if he woulda drew down on ya for having one in the trunk... good thing it was on your hip instead!! lol
     
  7. HighSpeed

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    Having DL with permit is a good idea; forgot to mention that.
     
  8. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I have been pulled over once and was involved in an accident once. Both times I handed my Permit with my DL and said, "I don't want to scare you
    ." Both times the officer was polite and calm. When I was in the accident I had a bunch of phone books in the back of the pick-up that I use for ballistic testing. The state trooper was more interested in my test results than my carry weapon. Once he realized I am a reloader we spent 20 minutes discussing rifles while we waited for the tow truck. Great guy. He really helped me get going. I even sent a letter to his supervisor thanking him for the help.
     
  9. ChuckD

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    Good post HighSpeed. People should review what their state's rules are concerning concealed carry permit holders and LEOs.

    Chuck D
     
  10. wb_carpenter

    wb_carpenter New Member

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    If I keep my pistol in my glove box or center console then its between me and myself. I keep my registration separate so I do not have to open anything.

    CCW the license plate check thing changes from state to state. I think in Ohio you have to inform the officer but in Florida you do not. I do not.

    Last thing I want is some gun hating LEO hassling me and overhandling my firearm or worse accidentally shooting himself or me with it because he is unfamiliar with it.
     
  11. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    Good One!
    Last time I tried letting the officer know I had a ccw he started up with me.
    "I want to know just why you are escalating this situation" is what he said. Then he & his partner next decided that since 3 out of the 5 serial #'s on my Kel-Tec P3AT matched those of a stolen gun that they'd need to impound my gun. I tried to explain to the officer's that 3 out of 5 is not an instant winner, but unfortunately these guy's had never actually "won" at much...I got my gun back & it was broken. Kel-Tec came thru like a winner & replaced the whole gun, frame & all. They even put my first gen serial# on my new 2nd gen replacement. Thanks MCSO for being the jerks I expected and also thanks to Kel-Tec for replacing the gun that the MCSO jerks broke.
    Gee, when will the mcso po-po learn that besides the few criminals they might happen upon, there are also a much larger portion of the population who do not exist to cause them trouble, I like to call these folks:Citizens. Sure would be great to be pulled over sometime by a cop who can pretend to be able to tell the difference between a lawbreaker and a Citizen.
     
  12. HighSpeed

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    I hate when I hear about experiences like this. We're not all a-holes, but unfortunately there are few bad apples in every bunch.
     
  13. Dragonheart

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    Better hope you pull over a concealed carry

    Here in Texas it is not an option, you must show your CC permit along with you drivers license.

    As far as a LEO pulling over a person with a Concealed Carry Permit I will pass on the information my Department of Public Safety Instructor told us when I became a Concealed Carry Instructor. He said, "when I pull a car over, especially at night, I don't know what I am going to run into; it this person armed, wanted, mentally unstable, intoxicated or what? So I have to be on high alert and at the ready. When I pull a car over and see a Concealed Carry Permit I breathe a sigh of relief. I immediately know that I am dealing with a law abiding citizen that happens to have a firearm. I also know this "citizen" has passed a background check that a lot cops couldn't pass! I know this person is not going to shoot me over a traffic ticket".

    My being one of these citizens I know the officer's thinking is correct.
     
  14. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    Dude Really,
    No cop is gloing to be given a gun without passing these requirements along with a background check. I have 2 FFL's and a AZ CCW along with a Utah CCW & have been through many background checks. Most cops in my town prefer to treat me like the enemy & that makes me wonder, as they are obviously not on my side, I must be on my own side?
     
  15. notoriousM3

    notoriousM3 New Member

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    High speed that sounds like good advice thank you. I'll try to remember it if/when I ever get pulled over.:)
     
  16. DrumJunkie

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    you are very correct. Sadly though it will be that few that get all the attention. I've had friends and/or family that worked as LEO most of my life.I've met many-many officers. And that one gut that is a real Oscar Meyer will be the one that get's people rather afraid of the PD or just flat out don't trust them. I had one actually use tools and take the seats out of my friends car because when he searched it (and I still don't know what we did to warrant that) found a plate under the seat with bread crumbs on it. He asked
    " Is this crack??!!?? Is it drugs??!!???" This made the driver laugh really hard. And that laughter got the seats removed from the vehicles right there on the side of the road. On the up side the county Sheriff showed up and made the officer reassemble the vehicle and remind him that bread crumbs is not enough a reason to disassemble a car. :rolleyes:

    LEO have a job that I'm really glad I don't do. You guys are tough men and women and deserve respect. But it wont happen many times because one guy got beat up in high school so he becomes a cop so that he has to be respected. And that is the guy that will mess it up for the real good guys.

    Stay safe and keep on keepin' on.
     
  17. General_lee

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    I've only been pulled over a couple of times since I got my permit, once for a tag light, the other because my window tint "Looked too dark".
    I simply handed over my DL, insurance card and GFL (Georgia Firearms License).
    They asked where the gun(s) were, I told them and that was it, they didn't ask to see the gun.
    So far I haven't been hassled about it. *knocks on wood*
     
  18. Strongwood

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    I travel by vehicle in my job a lot thru many different states. Fortunately, all of the states I drive thru recognize my states permit

    one Sunday night, I was on my way to a hotel in a small rural KY town ( I live in KY) I got pulled over for speeding 2 mph over the 10 grace they give us :)

    I did exactly what High Speed mentioned in his post

    It was dark, I have dark tinted windows. Before the officer got out of his car, I had the dome light on and all the windows rolled down.

    I did inform him that I had a weapon in the car and I was a permit holder. He asked where the weapon was.

    I pointed at the pocket in the drivers door and said "right here"

    He just said ok and we continued to talk. He went back to the cruiser and promptly wrote my ticket.

    He asked about my serving in the military when he returned and gave me my speeding award. ( I have veteran plates)

    Was hoping he would cut me some slack on the speeding but even though he didn't, he was very professional and just as important, he was very polite

    Yeah, it bummed me out about the ticket but I still have the utmost respect for this individual officer


    Paid my ticket and all is good.....till next time :)
     
  19. kyleytxrialover

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    been stopped 3-4 times here in texas (i have a cdl and yes it is legal to carry
    in a rig) every tme i handed over dl-chl asked where it was on my hip. 2 times
    they just handed it back, 2 times they pulled me out they moved me off the road and disarmed me. All the dps and locals were very cool with me. we spent
    more time talking steel or plastic:D
     
  20. King Ghidora

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    The first thing I do is really something I don't do. I don't go digging through my glove compartment looking for my registration before the LEO gets to my window. I sit calmly with my hands on top of the steering wheel. I make no sudden moves of any kind and I especially don't thrash around like I'm looking for my gun.

    The first thing I say is hello officer and then I say I have a concealed carry permit because we are required to say it in Ohio. I wait for the officer to ask me if I have a gun with me and I tell them if I do (which is almost always "yes I do"). I then tell them where it is all while keeping my hands on the steering wheel. This is the first time I've heard about the interior light deal. I'll be sure to do that from now on. It makes sense for the LEO.

    I haven't been pulled over that many times since I got my CCW. When I do most LEO's instantly recognize that I've passed a stringent background check and they usually relax because they know I'm not a trouble maker. I've had LEO's compliment me on doing the procedure correctly too. And I've had my CCW take suspicion away from me because they know I've passed that background check.

    So sometimes having a CCW can keep you out of trouble at least in a state where they do background checks. The rest is just common sense. They know I have a permit before they get to my window anyway. Not telling them is just asking for trouble. And I want no part of that. I'll help out any LEO that isn't acting like he wants to get famous by arresting the next Dillinger. They want to arrest everyone they meet in hopes that one of them will be a most wanted type I guess.
     
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