What to do when entering your own house with an intruder inside..

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by ARnoob, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. ARnoob

    ARnoob New Member

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    Several weeks ago my wife and I got back from picking up my Yugo m70ab2 mod that a friend of mine was working on. I pulled up to my house and parked the car. My wife and I went inside and got our dogs to take them for a walk. we got back about 20 minutes later. My wife started to open the back door to go outside again when she heard a thud from upstairs. She had a strange, scared looked on her face and told me what she heard. There was no sign of a forced entry, but based on her look, I decided to investigate and headed up the stairs. The lights were off upstairs. I took no more than 3 steps when I heard a loud thud myself. Well, that did it. I looked at my wife and told her to get the dos (puppies) and get in the car. I locked the back door so whoever was up there couldn't just run out the back, but would have to leave through the front.

    I got my Yugo m70 from the trunk and ran back in the house and yelled upstairs that I was calling the police. All of my ammo was upstairs in my closet! So I was basically going to have to bluff them if they came down and confronted me.

    The called police with the rifle in one hand and waited in the car with my wife. We were parked directly in front of the house with the engine running, and the lights shinning into our house. I told my wife that we'd wait for the police to show up, but I wanted a good look at whoever would run out the front door. In retrospect, I don't know if that was smart or not.

    The first LEO showed up withing 5 minutes. That was pretty quick. He was really nice, and I told him what my wife and I heard. He called for backup. Another officer showed up and they unholstered their pistols and broke out their flashlights. As they cleared the house I felt my heart beating pretty quickly and my wife and I were expecting to hear some gunshots. Well, after a couple of minutes they came back down and said that they did a pretty thorough check, but found nothing. I went back inside with them and we searched the place together.

    They were really nice and told me that I did the right thing. "Better safe than sorry". They asked me about my rifle, because I left the case on the couch. I told the officer that all the ammo was upstairs. He said that the rifle would have been a nice club. We laughed and they left. What a great bunch of guys. I made sure to call them as I've been robbed twice in my life as an adult (once at gunpoint, and the other time at knife point), and once as a child. I came face to face with the dude who broke into our house and I was five. That's another story though.

    It turns out that the noises that my wife and I heard were the result of a bag of toilet paper falling; once from a shelf above onto the dryer, and then a second time from the dryer onto the floor. What are the odds of this happening? We got a laugh out of it after the fact, but were pretty freaked at the time.

    So, the question I have is what would you guys and gals do in this situation? You'd be entering your place with someone already there. It's a little different from defending yourself when you're already there. Would you try to clear your house alone or wait for the police?
     
  2. Wings-ofthe-Luftwaffe

    Wings-ofthe-Luftwaffe New Member

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    i keep a loaded 9mm on my person or in my car, a flashlight in my glove box. if it were my id announce my intent to call the cops and get them on the phone, inform them of my situation, and go hunting for the scum that dared enter my home while i waited for them to get here.

    thats just me, and im not IN THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW, so in all truth that is just speculation of what i think id do.
     

  3. Gus556

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    I have an 870 or a 500 in the truck all the time. If it were me, I would call the cops as my wife made her way to the barn to grab the CAR-15 or Winchester model 12 and cover the other side of the house. We wait for the cops to do their jobs so we dont have to go through the legality of hunting someone down in your home and killing them. If they try to rush us to do harm, well, that is a different story. Then you are defending yourself and the use of deadly force is authorized.
     
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    That's a tough one, especially since most of my guns are in my bedroom, with the ammo.......

    I think i would've watched the house from a bit more distance, especially if my XD45 wasn't in the car.

    edit* Upon further consideration, i'm not sure i would be comfortable calling the police to search my house. :eek:
     
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  5. Dzscubie

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    Well being my wife and I are the odd balls here (both cops) we would clear the house using the two man concept. However, I would make her take the lead as she is the local po-po and has more authority in this matter than I do (I'm a fed) and besides she is better at report writing than I am and I'm a better shot than she is. :D
     
  6. hillbilly68

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    Think it is the right choice. Reasonable threat argument gets thinner if you go in after him if no loved ones in the casa. Glad it worked out for you.

    ANybody says they never heebee jeebeeed off a noise that was nothing is full of it. Good training event for you though.
     
  7. tristan

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    I guess i would call the police tell them the situation and probly clear the house with the local pd. in route.
     
  8. Shooter girl

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    If it were me I would have sent my dobe upstairs. If I heard shots or the sounds of a big dog tearing into a guy then I would have known that there was someone up there that shouldn't have been there.

    Then I would have acted as you did. If I didn't hear shots or my dobe tearing into someone I would have investigated further.
     
  9. rodent.22

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    In Virginia you'd better not enter and clear the house yourself, as you had the last opportunity to avoid the confrontation. Shoot someone in this circumstance and you will be charged and also liable to the victim....:(
     
  10. lonyaeger

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    I think you did the right thing. I would recommend that you change brands of toilet paper, though, and go with the lighter stuff. :)
     
  11. c3shooter

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    Ya done good (other than the mistake of being armed with a poorly shaped club). Think I might pass on making any announcements- let the arrival of the local LEOS come as a surprise (I LOVE surprises- don't you, boys and girls?) I REALLY hate having to get the carpet guy in to replace the carpet (those stains just DON'T come out, no matter what Billy Mays said about Oxy-Clean) Going in by myself is not only unneeded and foolish, but ups the odds that I will have to replace carpet. Intruder(s?) may chose to take on one aged homeowner (not yet having learned they chose poorly:cool:) but may be less inclined to take on a couple of members in blue, accompanied by Rin-Tin-Tin.
     
  12. notdku

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    Tough call but can't say I wouldn't do the same even if I was carrying. Not worth the risk to me to sweep the house if you really think someone is inside.

    I've swept the house a couple of times from noises I heard that then set the dogs off in the middle of the night though.
     
  13. Lindenwood

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    Searching and clearing a house is difficult and dangerous. Sending your dog up there is, IMO, careless. Sure, the guy could be not all there and still trying to rifle through your wife's jewelry as the dog charges up behind him. But, he could be not all there and have barricaded himself behind your bed with a shotgun and waited for you (or the dog) to walk into the doorway.

    Unless there is something you absolutely have to get (i.e., a loved one), sitting tight and waiting for help is definitely the safest. It sucks to know someone could be loading your TV into a truck while you cower behind your mattress, but it would also suck to be shot by his lookout when you snuck into the living room. The only way I'd even consider it would be if I could somehow flank them, like if I had a way to quietly exit the home frm my bedroom, and sneak around to the entrance they used and ambush them from behind. However, I'd be much more likely to do that if I lived out in the sticks and knew it would take a half hour for the cops to arrive.
     
  14. opaww

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    I think you made the right choice, except for the yelling, that will let them know the cops are on the way, giving them time to ready how ever they are in a mind too. This could prove life threatning to LEO's who come to clear the house.

    I would myself guard the door and if my son is with me he would take the other door until the cops get here
     
  15. canebrake

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    Make the call and wait for the entertainment to begin.

    Clearing your house when returning home is hunting, not personal defense!
     
  16. ARnoob

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    Thanks for all your input. I really did consider clearing the place by myself for a second, and then realized that it wasn't a good move (especially without ammo in my rifle). I probably should not have yelled that the police were on the way, because what if they charged down the stairs and were armed? And I should leave the TP on the ground from now on...:D
     
  17. Jess

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    I would get back in my car....back onto the road...and wait for the trained professionals. NOTHING in my home is worth my life.
     
  18. themyst

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    There is a lot of B&E in my area. Unfortunately, instead of just breaking in and stealing, they're also getting violent and trashing the homes, too.

    I'm not sure what I would do if I came home and knew someone was inside my house. My first instinct would be to sneak in with my pistol drawn because I have small pets to protect (that some punk would love to F with). On the other hand, I don't want a dead teenager on my conscious for the rest of my life. But, I wouldn't want him getting away and slipping out of the house while I wait for the police, either.

    I don't see how covering the exits would help any - I'm a woman and most likely couldn't stop a raging teenager or man from desperately trying to get out after being caught ... I don't think it would be proper to stand at the exit with my gun trained on him because 'I shot him when he attempted to escape' probably wouldn't go over well, and I wouldn't pull my gun without intending to use it.

    I suppose just taking your chances with the police and possibly letting the perpetrator get away is the politically correct answer here? :(
     
  19. laynejc

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    After thinking of what I would do, I have decided that since I do not have a high security safe, just a sheet metal cabinet, I would have to call the national guard and get back a few hundred yards. The idea of my own firearms being used against me is unsettling, my next investment is a gun safe.
     
  20. c3shooter

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    Don't recall seeing that here. DO recall saying (and seeing) get help when time permits. Even a trained, well equipped LEO will be looking for a backup when trying to clear a building. Strength in numbers. AKA "Fools rush in- experience takes up a good barricade firing position".

    Now, my lady or my kids are in there? Would make Jean Claude look like a wuss. My stereo is in there? That can wait.