what to do if gun is drawn and confrontation ends?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by okieboy, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. okieboy

    okieboy New Member

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    So I know what I should do if I ever have to shoot somebody. But what should I do if i find myself having to draw my weapon and that ends the confrontation? If there are witnesses especially? Like if I draw my gun, and the bad guy runs away should I still report the incident to police? Or do I just reholster and walk away?
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    There IS no "one size fits all" answer. Give me circumstances, and I'll tell you what I think I would do.


    But in general, yes. The first call to the authorities is the one that tends to have greater credibility. As opposed to explaining to the authorities why you pulled on gun on the person that just called and reported you to them.
     

  3. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Very good advice.
     
  4. okieboy

    okieboy New Member

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    I don't have any sort of circumstances. Im merely pondering life and that thought came up.
     
  5. spottedpony

    spottedpony New Member

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    Presumably you draw your weapon in response to a potential crime scenerio. burglery, robbery, assualt or the attempt to commit one of the previous. Why would you not report a crime such as that?
     
  6. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Speaking for myself only ... drawing and watching as the bg runs off ... I'd simply place firearm back into holster and walk away. Now, however, if it was a mugging you stopped, or a rape, or even someone getting mercilessly beaten, I suppose informing 911 might be in order. But that's up to the individual. Personally speaking, I once stopped a gang rape, and all four guys ran off as I pointed the firearm at them. The young girl, of course, was in a horrific state of shock and terrified. I couldn't inform 911 even if I wanted to because I was illegally carrying while driving a taxicab in the wee hours of the night in NYC. I would have been automatically arrested then.
     
  7. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    100% on target! In LE we have to be very careful to keep an open mind when investigating situations like this. I have handled many calls where the bandit calls and reports that he was 'threatened' by a 'man with a gun', so immediately he is labeled as a 'victim' by many LEO'S who do not keep an open mind. SO CALL AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
    Two things I would tell the cops I trained:
    1. Do what ever you must do, but be right when you do it.
    2. It is not always your actions that will get you trouble, the the way you explain them is just as important .;)
     
  8. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You nailed the biggest problem on earth, a government who does not trust you.
    Thus MOST people do not want to violate the law and get arrested so they do not arm themselves and thus they MUST not 'get involved' for fear of retaliation or becoming another victim at the scene, or being arrested for doing the 'right' thing!:mad:
     
  9. AR10

    AR10 New Member

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    If you pull your gun and the confrontation ends, very very very very likely, your brainishing a gun was not needed to thwart the impending action you were so afraid of.

    Pulling a fire truck up in front of a fire does not make a fire go out.

    Do you think flashing a gun at Sandy Hook would have stopped the attack?

    You never want to pull your gun, as doing so means the decision has been made that lead and copper are headed towards the conflict to resolve the issue in your favor. Is there a viable means to turning off an M-80 once you light the fuse?

    If you pull a gun on someone, call the police if you are alone, or instruct others to do so if you are with other people. Do not get tunnel vision, remain aware of other possible threats in your area.

    Once the police arrive, unless it is your brother in law, be aware, you are the man with a gun and the subject of the police call, so be ready to be cuffed and placed in detention as the officers sort it all out.

    Big city? Look at months getting your gun returned to you.

    Very likely, you could loose your permit to carry a concealed weapon, as pulling an unneeded firearm is not something police departments want to deal with, and very much wish to discourage.

    Never never never pull your gun, thinking this is one step towards getting out of a conflict. Branshing a gun is not part of conflict resolution 101 class.
     
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  10. okieboy

    okieboy New Member

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    I am quite aware of the law thank you. Rest assured I will never draw unless absolutely necessary.
     
  11. okieboy

    okieboy New Member

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    No I do not believe any of the scenarios you described. I am absolutely prepared to pull the trigger if necessary, however I am asking what should I do IF the BG runs away the moment they realize the person they're targeting has a gun.
     
  12. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    You call the police. You remain at the scene of the crime. You give them the best description you can of the person, which direction they headed in and means of travel and recount exactly what happened.
    DO NOT have your gun drawn when they arrive.
    Expect to be disarmed.
    Do as they say and hope to get your gun back.
     
  13. mahall

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    Better know the law before you draw!! Laws change drawing a weapon off your property vs on your property!! My understanding it has to be last option, immediate and life threatening situation for you to draw your firearm in public off your property!! And even than, be prepared for legal action charged against you!! No matter how right you are in reacting to a situation!! Just be prepared for lengthy court battles!! Especially if injury or death took place!! Home defense is much different, in most cases they(BG) are presumed to be a threat to your life by being on your property without being welcomed or invited!! Much easier to justify, drawing a weapon on your property opposed to off your property!! Know the law before you draw!!

    Note Robbery or theft is not considered life threatening!!
     
  14. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Wouldn't it depend of if the thief or robber has a weapon, too?

    If I ever had to draw, I would very probably call the police and report the incident.
     
  15. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Persons crimes (robbery, rape, assault, burglary of any occupied structure are persons crimes and the only property crime most jurisdictions will allow the use of deadly force to prevent is arson) ALL have the potential for serious injury or death.
    Robbery is a 'persons' crime, depending on the totality of the circumstances, the presence of deadly force would be legal and appropriate in most cases.
    Theft is a property crime and you can't use deadly force to stop the person from committing the crime BUT if you intervene to stop the crime and the criminal resistes your attempt to stop him and attacks you you have every legal right to defend yourself . Back to what I said earlier, it is not always what you do but how you explain it.
    In this case you have every right to use force (non-lethal) to protect your property so if you attempt to stop the theft and the criminal escalates the situation you can use whatever force is necessary to overcome the attack/threat.
    Do whatever you must do, just be right when you do!!!;)
     
  16. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    I never thought about it before, but I'm the "no harm, no foul" type typically. My gut reaction was to say put the gun back and go on about your day.

    But as others said it would be wise to report a potential crime, because you have a description of the assailant. Even though it's unlikely anything will come of it before the BG does something again, it might help to convict down the road. We have a responsibly to all innocent citizens of this country, not just ourselves.

    Great question!
     
  17. mahall

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    I'm not a Lawyer!! But theft with an immediate danger of life of yours or someone else's would justify deadly force!! But theft In itself would not!! Another words if you see a theft without the threat a life, call the cops. If you see a theft with the life of yours or someone else's in immediate danger, use of deadly force would be a green light!! Common sense should be the best rule here!! Instinctively, our life preserving instincts should tell us how to react!! Violent crimes such rape or aggressive assault should fall into a life threatening situation!! But some forms of assault would not!! Threats, arguing is a definite red light!! Old fashion physical fights over differences is gray and vague at best, unless you think your going to die if you don't draw your firearm!! And most of the time drawing without firing would work in that situation!! The whole key is "life threatening" if not, best to walk away, call the cops or use any other option besides deadly force!! Best to know a good defense attorney, you will need good legal advise, if you use or draw your firearm, particularly off your property!! Any lawyers on here?? I stand to be corrected if am way off on these principles!!
     
  18. mahall

    mahall New Member

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    And it's a good idea to periodically review, CC laws and HD laws in your Home state, not that it really matters, most gun owners are going to preserve life despite what the law might say!! But it's nice to keep updated on what you might face after a situation!
     
  19. 25-5

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    If it is an armed confrontation, those who are quick enough to turn and run can keep running. Then a call to LEO and holster before he arrives.
     
  20. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Never write what you can say and never say what you can whisper.