What sight to get?

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by beastmode986, May 3, 2014.

  1. beastmode986

    beastmode986 New Member

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    I am not sure what sight to get, I am trying to decide between a regular iron sights(carry handle), a red dot, or a 1-4 power scope. The ar15 will be used from 25 or so yards all the way out to 300. I like how its easy to adjust the irons for distance with the knob at the bottom, but I like things about all of these sights. I will mainly be plinking with it but who knows, maybe hunting later on. What do you guys recommend for average use and what is most versatile? I am strongly considering the primary arms 1-4 scope or one of their red dots. I don't know of anyone who makes decent irons for an ar around 100$ so recommendations for that too would be nice.

    Also, for the distance's I will be shooting should I zero it at 25 or 35 yards? I read that 25yds will be the close at 100yds and 35 yds close at 300yds?

    Thanks.


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  2. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    None of my RDS ARs are without irons. I prefer to have both. If set up right, they'll compliment each other just fine. The spendier flip Troys and Magpuls are both excellent. A set of them will run you $150-275. The budget minded DD fixed and Magpul MOE flip sights will run you about $100 for a set. And they're every bit as good as the more expensive options in my experience. That's why all five of my ARs wear either Magpul MOE or DD sights.

    Where you sight in is about your own needs and preferences. Most of my ARs are sighted in around 50yds. Nothing scientific there, it just works for me.
     

  3. sweeper22

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    Good options:

    Magpul MOE Gen2- $90-110, all over the web (beware of PTS and knockoffs)

    Daniel Defense fixed- $120

    PSA- $90
     
  4. Argyle_Armoring

    Argyle_Armoring New Member

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    I carry all those sights sweeper listed. I run Magpul MBUS on my rifles.

    As far as zero is concerned. I use an EOTech HWS so mine is sighted in at 50 yards. That 50 is also good for 200 yards.
     
  5. beastmode986

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    The upper has a fixed front sight so no need for a new one. I saw the Magpul, dd, and psa sights but figured a carry handle type sight would be sturdier? Is the dd or psa rear sight sturdier than the Magpul?


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  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    sturdiest rear sight are the magpul mbus2 polymer. thats what i use on my rifles. ive got a matech on my bcm carbine but i can only run it with my acog or the wife's aimpoint. if i use a scope its too tall.

    my recommendation is the magpul mbus 2 polymer. cheap sturdier than any metal sight and very lightweight.

    ive repaced my scar17 oem iron sights with the mbus2 front and rear.
     
  7. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    So wait...you're saying you only need a rear sight and were having a hard time finding one within a $100 budget? That's like saying it's hard to find a reliable new sedan for under $40K. (Please forgive my smartassedness)

    My preference is a flip rear Magpul MBUS for $55 or so. Great sight. They're light, durable, affordable, and true. What else matters?

    The Daniel Defense fixed rear runs about $70. It's also a fine choice and should get you lined up well with your front sight post and most RDS options. The PSA flip is rock solid for $50 or so, and can be parlayed with a decent RDS for $150.

    Nothing wrong with the carry handle option. They work. If it's what you prefer, it's what you should buy. But carry handles tend to minimize the value of additional optics.
     
  8. beastmode986

    beastmode986 New Member

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    I may have worded it wrong lol. I want to spend under 100$ on a rear sight, I have seen plenty under 100$ but I have seen a few over too. Around 50-60$ would be better. I like the carry handles sights because they are versatile and easy to adjust for multiple distances with the knob at the bottom. I have seen the Magpul was not sure about how nice they were. So I am trying to decide between the psa carry handle sight, psa flip up sight or Magpul mbus.
     
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  9. JonM

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    I don't know if this will help, but my setup is on a Colt Government Model so the carry handle is all I've got. I put an A.R.M.S. mount on it and use a 2x7 compact scope. My battle zero is 200 yds, so I'm about an inch and a half to 2 inches high at 100yds and about 2 to 3 inches low at 25 yards. It has worked well for many years and I like my optic on my AR. I loved my iron sights when I first got the rifle but once I put my scope on it, I never went back.
     
  11. beastmode986

    beastmode986 New Member

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    Thanks everyone. Jonm, why do you choose rock river arms sights over like say a colt carry handle or psa?


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  12. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    only in the match grade carry handle.

    rra has the only detachable carry handle that tracks true out to 600yards. even on closer ranges the clicks are even and repeatable. if you move the sight 8 clicks you get 2" of impact shift each click is the correct ammount.

    other carry handles either dont reach out to 600 or have true predictable click adjustments or both.

    this includes colt. if your just talking about the non match carry handles no real difference.
     
  13. beastmode986

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    ^ Ok cool, its a bit expensive but sounds like its worth it. I was looking at the matech buis, are they any good? I am thinking ill get that and a red dot or the rra carry handle.


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  14. beastmode986

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    Ok, I have have a final decision to make...
    http://swfa.com/Optisan-1-4x24-Mamba-EAR30-Mount-Combo-P51887.aspx

    or a Vortex SPARC 1

    I scrapped the iron sight idea as a primary sight because I would value these optics more if I choose to attend some competitions by my house. Nothing major, the range sets up some 3 gun type stuff and steel targets and I want to do that. I want to purchase one of these by saturday so what do yall think?


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  15. Mercator

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    At 300 yards for stationary targets you need a scope. You can have a 1-4x red dot combo called Leupold Fire Dot but it ain't cheap.

    Or you can go with a red dot for close ups and a separate magnifier for distance.
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2014