what next

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by kzink, Nov 25, 2009.

  1. kzink

    kzink New Member

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    well after getting my first gun, remington 870, and now picking up a springfield xd 40 i feel i need a rifle. i am unsure what size to get and would like a little help. i want to be able to hunt deer at the largest but i dont want all the power like a 30-06 has. is their any happy medium
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Get a boltaction .308 20" bull barrel. Get the action bedded and a trigger job. Get a Decelerator pad for the stock and/or a muzzle break.

    Good for any 2 legged critter out to well past 500 yards. Good on game. Ammo everywhere in a SHTF situation.

    You can put meat on the table and you can put a d!ck in the dirt.

    Everyone should have a good boltgun in their arsenal.

    JD
     

  3. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    .270 is a good flat shooting round. But, I'm a .30-06 guy myself. ;)
     
  4. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    Not bad recommendations. Just ditch the bull barrel idea for a sporter if you're going to be doing alot of walking.
    Do not get a muzzle brake on a hunting rifle. Especially unnecessary on something as small as a 308. Ask me how I know brakes are a bad idea...just ask really LOUDLY.
    308 family of cartridges will do a fine job on deer size game. With low recoil, muzzle blast, and plenty of power and accuracy.
    .243
    .260
    7mm-08
    .308
    All fine deer cartridges. I personally like Remington bolt actions. A Model7 Mt rifle makes a fine lightweight woods rifle IMO----Gate
     
  5. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Blasphemy!

    Our muzzle breaks are at 23 degrees. They don't make you deaf and they work like a champ. Cut recoil.

    But, they are not for everyone. That is why I said "and/OR" in my post.

    And a bull barrel on a .308 at 20" is the perfect rifle size, length & weight.

    How do I know, because that is EXACTLY what I am getting my .308 rebarreled for. :cool:

    Then again, maybe I am bit bigger than some of you folks, but for ME, that is not a load to carry at all.

    I find that to come in about 14-14.5# pounds with my set up in my sig line. And a good sling works wonders.

    I am just saying....

    JD
     
  6. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    But. An good AR is NEVER a bad choice. But it's going to cost you more than the .308 and the bedding/trigger job...

    JD
     
  7. hillbilly68

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    What? HUH? WHAT DID YOU SAY???
    Yeah they are not for everyone...especially if you are the poor SOB to either side of the shooter. :p
     
  8. Gatekeeper

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    Sorry JD, have to disagree.
    For deer hunting, a brake on a rifle in a caliber as small as a .308 is questionable at best. A brake on a 14.5lb .308 is redonkulous.
    Is the OP going to sit in a blind all day? If so 14lb hunting rifle is fine for a beanfield rifle(sitting on stand all day).
    If the OP does any hunting that involves much walking even a 10Lb rifle will get too heavy. You'll never shoot enough while deer hunting to worry about heating up a barrel enough to justify a Hvy barrel and the extra weight is dead weight--not needed.
    Im not a small guy either and work keeps me in decent shape, but the last two days I bear hunted 5miles on monday and 8miles on tuesday in boulder & laurel covered mountains. Doesnt sound like very far, but the terrain makes it feel like much, much more.
    The last five years I had a 10Lb rifle, this year I used a 8lb'er, much better but I would like to trim even more. That little extra weight makes a huge difference in staying alert and comfortable throughout a long hunt.
    If you want to hunt with a heavy rifle thats fine.
    This is JMO based on over 20 years of hunting experience.---Gate
     
  9. 270 win

    270 win New Member

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    If I were you I'd buy either a 270 win in marlin xl7, or a 280 rem
     
  10. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Take a look at the OP's arsenal and then recommend a pencil thin barreled rifle.

    He has a Remington 870. That is a light gun that can shoot slugs and drop a deer.

    And he has a Springfield XD. A very good pistol.

    A .308 is a great next choice. But a pencil thin barrel?

    Fine. Get the thin barrel and add a Decelerator pad.

    But in a rifle that will do EVERYTHING for you, a heavy barreled .308 is a great urban work rifle and a great hunting stick if you get a good sling.

    You guys are concentrating too damn much on the need for a 5 mile a day/hike hunting stick when the guy owns TWO weapons.

    Get a Ruger 10/22 then. It's a great light weight weapon, with a ton of versatility, that will teach you a ton about shooting, for cheap.

    And you can still hunt deer in North America with a shotgun and some slugs.

    Hunters. They mess up every rifle discussion, I swear to Ape...:rolleyes:

    JD
     
  11. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    The Hell?!

    He NEVER said he was shooting with other folks. He said he wanted to shoot deer at the most.

    You guys get so friggin hung up on one suggestion that was merely a damn option.

    "and/OR"

    Christ...........:mad:
     
  12. hillbilly68

    hillbilly68 New Member

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    AHHHH HAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA that is awesome. Within 5 minutes I was able to ruffle my compadre's feathers. :D
     
  13. Dillinger

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    God damn hunters. They have no business discussing Cer-I-Us rifle Bid-Nezz....

    Jerkface!

    Glad to have you back brother. I have missed you....

    JD
     
  14. skullcrusher

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    Glad to have you back, Hillbilly. You have been missed and your skills have been needed here.

    Funny that even hunters can mess up a hunting rifle question....LMAO.

    A light rifle is great for hunting, and 14# is heavy for hunting. That 870 is not gonna reach out nearly as far as some of the suggestions. I suggest .243 minimum and if the OP wants to stay under .30-06, then it comes down to .243 or .270. Marlin makes a nice stick with the XL-7 for a great price that comes in those calibers.