what makes a rifle a carbine.

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Crazycastor, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. Crazycastor

    Crazycastor New Member

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    I never could figure out what makes a rifle a carbine rifle. Can someone explain this to me?
     
  2. yayamamasami

    yayamamasami New Member

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    A light automatic rifle.
    A short rifle or musket used by cavalry.
     

  3. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    Generally a carbine refers to a shorter length of the barrel. Carbines in the range of 16 to 20 inches. Rifles are 20 inches and up.

    The military has some carbines shorter than 16 inches, but they are not available to us civilians without a tax stamp.
     
  4. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    A short version of a rifle, or a rifle designed to be short, light, and handy.

    A a Mauser 98K (K being Karabine) was a short version of the Model 1898 Rifle.

    A M1 Carbine was designed from the start to be a short, light, handy, shoulder fired weapon.
     
  5. Crazycastor

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    Got it. Knew it was something like that but never knew how they considered it to be a carbine. For the longest I thought it was a rifle that shot a pistol round until I started paying attention to some rifle rounds in carbines.
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Originally, a short barreled rifle used by Cavalry. Comes from the French Carabine, which related to mounted troops.

    Which, by the way, is why it is pronounced car-bean, and not car-bine.
     
  7. yayamamasami

    yayamamasami New Member

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    Shoot, I didn't know that that's why we call them car-beans. Thanks c3. A wealth of knowledge!!!!
     
  8. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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  9. G-man111

    G-man111 New Member

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    I did not know that M1 grand!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. G-man111

    G-man111 New Member

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    Hey man are you new.
     
  11. yayamamasami

    yayamamasami New Member

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    M1 Garand, you mean?

    Nope, been around for awhile. I sometimes have to go places, do things for my Uncle.
     
  12. G-man111

    G-man111 New Member

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    Yes I mean M1Garand
     

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  13. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    The description of a carbine was a shortened version of an existing military rifle. The WWII .30 M-1 was in fact a short rifle not a Carbine. There were some shortened M-1 Garands made late in the war.:)
    This description was also applied to civilian firearms as well. The most famous movie rifle was the Winchester Mdl. 92 Saddle Ring Carbine. This was the horse friendly version of the 92 Mdl. rifle.:)
     
  14. G-man111

    G-man111 New Member

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    True that true that
     
  15. Vikingdad

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    I once asked this question of a know-it-all at work a few years back. His reply?

    "A carbine uses corrosive primers, a rifle uses non-corrosive primers.":confused:


    I kid you not. That was his answer. I just said "Hmmm." then turned and walked away.

    By the way, he was wrong.
     
  16. yayamamasami

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    The M1 carbine (formally the United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1) is a lightweight, easy to use semi-automatic carbine that became a standard firearm for the U.S. military during World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War, and was produced in several variants. It was widely used by U.S. and foreign military, paramilitary and police forces, and has also been a popular civilian firearm.

    In selective fire versions capable of fully automatic fire, the carbine is designated the M2 carbine. The M3 carbine was an M2 with an active infrared scope system. Unlike conventional carbines, which are generally a version of a parent rifle with a shorter barrel (like the earlier .30-40 U.S. Krag rifle and carbine and the later M16 rifle and M4 carbine), the M1 carbine has only one minor part in common with the M1 rifle (a short buttplate screw) and fires a different cartridge.
     
  17. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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  18. G-man111

    G-man111 New Member

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    I really don't know
     
  19. yayamamasami

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  20. Vikingdad

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    You really don't know what? The guy was an idiot. He tried to give a plausible answer but to anyone who knows a little bit his answer was just stupid. Corrosive primers were phased out starting in the 1940's I think. You can't get them anymore. In any event, the primer, corrosive or not, is a part of the cartridge and has nothing at all to do with the firearm from which the cartridge is fired. Well, you do have to clean the hell out of firearms that have used ammo with corrosive primers because they can cause corrosion.