What Makes a Gun Expensive??

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Trez, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    I just really dont understand why the Garand I want is so expensive?? I mean why does a "International Harvester" stamp make a $600 gun into a $2000+ one?? IH made over 300,000 M1's, H&R made not many more but there still just $600 and can be gotten from the CMP any day of the week..
    If you count Garands from all makers there were over 5 million..

    Thats on par with a Mateba, and they only made 2,000 and theres nothing else like them.. (Besides a Webley) or the Medusa only 500 were made, but there only worth about $1,000??

    Just seems weird that the "common" gun is worth more than rare ones... :confused:
     
  2. 95sniper

    95sniper New Member

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    I think it has something to do with the fact that most of the time people dont know the true worth of what they have that is why you see really good guns at a steal and you see crappy guns marked up
     

  3. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    I have a number of Garands. The IHC is at the top of the list as it has been for years. They are hard to find if you want to complete a collection. :)
     
  4. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    The reason that IH Garands may be more expensive is that people are
    willing to pay more for a IH Garand.

    Why are they willing to pay more for IH?

    Darned if I know. Perceived or real higher quality? Less "good ones" left
    in the world? They come up for sale less often, thereby giving the
    illusion of rarity? Doesn't really matter. As long as there people that
    will pay a premium for IH manufacture, the price will stay up. You don't
    like it--don't pay it.:)
     
  5. chuckusaret

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    In my area I have recently seen several IH M1's and a Rock Ola M1 carbine in the $1,500 range.


    The value of anything is based on what people are willing to pay.
     
  6. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    It just seems weird to me a mass-produced gun that was made by multiple manufactures is worth more than one with low production numbers, and made by nobody else?

    Ive seen a lot more IH Garands on Gunbroker than Ive seen Matebas and Medusas combined...


    Why arent H&R Garands expensive? Like I said they didnt make very many more than IHC (less than 90,000), but they arent any more expensive than a Springfield (They made over 3 million)...
     
  7. Orlando

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    The reason for the high $$$ of IHC Garands is there arent many available.
    Werent a large number of them made to begin with and many of them were given, lent or sold (cant remember) to a allie country
    HRA's used to sell at a higer premium until CMP received a big batch of them and now prices on them are no different than SA Garands
    Its all about supply and demand
     
  8. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Something that nobody told you, but I had the chance to touch all IHC Garands. They all have a little gold in them. :)
     
  9. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Well, why did you have to go do that for??? :mad:


    The damn rifle costs more than my Scout! :p
     
  10. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

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    Trez, dont try to buy a Webley Fosbery if you dont like the sticker on the IH Garands,. My 38 sold for 17K a year ago and a friend of mines 455 just sold for 23K. The reasons behind the numbers are many and deals are few and far between, the internet has made everyone an expert! Strangely, the WF Was a flop, low production and anemic sales, you couldnt give them away in the 30's.

    Try to compare the price on a single penny made in 1909, The non VDB 1909 can go 20 bucks or less. The 1909 S-VDB can sell for $2500 all because of the VDB stamp, very rare, very collectable.
     
  11. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Those dont count, they are Rare.. Less than 5,000 of the Webley Fosbery were made, and its a unique design .. Those VDB pennies were rare in 1909, let alone over 100 yrs later..

    My whole point is that the IH Garand isnt really that rare, compared with other guns and brings more than really rare guns..
    Like I said they only made 500 Medusas (of those only 250 are here in the states), but a Garand that theres over 300,000 bring 3x the price???
    There even up there price wise with Sniper Garands..

    Everybody tells me im crazy for wanting the IH Garand, but apparently im not, because their the most valuable.. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Mosin

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    I would ROCK an IH Garand... Then I'd play that IH country song, International Harvester by Craig Morgan at full blast, while unloading my IH Garand.

    BLAM BLAM BLAM!!!!
    On my International Harvester!!!
     
  13. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Many of us grew up working on farms and ranchs. The Farmall Tractors with the Big IH symbol just means something to us. Having a Farmall Garand completes a childhood dream. :D
     
  14. Trez

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    I guess that why I gotta have one too.. How cool is it to have your truck, tractor, and rifle all made by the same company... :)

    On another note a Friend found me a GM M1 Carbine... Could go nicely in the back of the Cadillac... :p
     
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  15. dragunovsks

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    Or hanging in the gunrack in the back window of a 72 C10, I love those trucks.

    I just learned something new, I didn't know IH made rifles but I guess it makes sense, world war requires lots of weapons and all hands were on deck to crank em out.
     
  16. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    IH made them during Korea..

    Blasphemy!! A Chevy truck?? :p
     
  17. Orlando

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    There were only aprox 337,623 IHC Garands made and there are serveral variations which also makes them collectable
    Arrowhead
    Postage Stamp
    Gap Letters
    This combined with rifles that were given to our allies ,rifles sent to Capatin Crunch and what is already in the hands of shooters/collectors there just isnt that many available
     
  18. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    Yea I'm a hardcore Ford fan but id love to have one of those C10 pickups.
     
  19. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    What are those???
     
  20. Orlando

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