What kind of Ruger is this?

Discussion in 'Ruger Handgun Forum' started by Shintsu, Dec 25, 2013.

  1. Shintsu

    Shintsu New Member

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    Hello all, trying to figure out what configuration this Ruger Mark II is that a relative is offering me. They only want $125 for it, and I know them so they take good care of their guns. I was wanting a stainless steel finish, but I can't argue at a price like that. What I know is the front of the manual said Ruger Mark II, 22/45 and then it listed like Competition, Target, and something else. The gun itself looked to have about a 5.5" barrel length like the standard bull barrel size, except it had I believe a compressor on the end. It may actually be shorter than this, but at its longest it might be that long.

    Here's where I'm going to look dumb because I don't know gun terminology, but I'll do my best. It has what looks like something like this at the end, but I don't know if it comes off or not:
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    This one I pictured looks longer than the one he has, it looks a bit shorter but has that same thing on the end. It's a slightly different style, but is otherwise similar in dimension and appearance. All the ones I see with the compressor on the end look longer than the one he is offering. I'd ask for more info but I got a good look and this is all I saw on it. It is blue finish like this with a similar style grip, no scope or anything of course, but has a grey rectangular Ruger box which it came in (No idea if that could help identify it better, I imagine it's the same for most).

    Any idea which version this is? I can't see going wrong at that price, but I'd just like to know what it is exactly.

    I think the compressor looks more like this style, so I'm not sure if it isn't something that's factory mounted or non-removable or what. It looks non-removable to me though.
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  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    it looks like a fixed grip panel 22/45 with the 5.5" target barrel. it looks like maybe an aftermarket compensator has been added to the barrel. plus the red dot sight. they come with a factory scope base in the box.

    it looks very well worth $125! i would definately buy it for that. i paid $270 for mine NIB about two years ago. here is mine with the removeable grip panels.
     

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  3. Shintsu

    Shintsu New Member

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    Thanks, like I said I just snagged that pic to help - it doesn't have a red dot or anything fancy on it I just had a hard time finding one that looked like it. It definitely has a compensator on the end, so there's no factory version that had this? Does this mean it had a threaded barrel, or was it added in some other way? What precisely does the compensator do on this gun anyway? I haven't really seen it on many pistols so it looked a bit odd to me at first.

    I think it might be this size, with a compressor on the end
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  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    they did start offering a threaded barrel model i thing last year or the year before, but i don't think that one has the threaded barrel. it looks like one that is clamped on the end of the barrel.

    the compensator helps control recoil by redirecting the spent gasses out of the barrel. for the most part, not really needed on a 22 rimfire. some people put them on them so it looks cool.
     
  5. Shintsu

    Shintsu New Member

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    Gotcha, so are there any legality issues with compensators? Does its added length help accuracy in any way whatsoever, or is it purely aesthetic? One last one, what is really the advantage of the bull barrel? Honestly, I just think they look really cool but I'm sure there is actually a more technical reason why they're preferred over the smaller standard Ruger Mark barrel.
     
  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    legality i am pretty sure there are none associated with it being on a pistol. none that i know of.

    the extreme competition shooter might notice some benefit from it having a compensator, but the average shooter would probably not even be able to tell any difference in it's performance. more of a cosmetic add-on for most people.

    the rifling of the barrel are whats key to it's accuracy. on a pistol, i don't think the larger barrel really makes that huge a difference in the accuracy of the pistol.
     
  7. Shintsu

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    One last thing, this one really looks a lot like it with the grip and everything. To be honest, should I shoot this before I buy it? I have no concerns regarding reliability or otherwise, just don't really know if there's anything else I should check out before going ahead with it.
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  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    dang! that gun doesn't even look like it's been shot!

    it wouldn't hurt to try it out if possible, but i seriously doubt there are going to be any issues with it. IMO, the price asked is pretty good too.
     
  9. Shintsu

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    Thanks, I'll probably just go for it. I'm sure if there are any issues he'll be easy to deal with, he's very cool. I kinda wanted the Mark II - though in stainless steel with the longer barrel. But hey, can't complain for the price. Now to find affordable .22 ammo to shoot with, ha!
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    the full metal Ruger Mk II and III pistols are priced a little higher and that was what i wanted too. but i am very happy with mine and happy with the price i paid as well. i am happy enough that the ony way i would sell mine is to replace it with another one.

    even if there is an issue, Ruger will warranty it, so buy it with confidence and enjoy the pistol.

    BTW, those are pretty danged accurate pistols too.
     
  11. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    If the compensator is like your lower pic, it's an older Volquartzen V-Comp. About $60 retail.
    $125 for the pistol? Grab it quick.
     
  12. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    that was my thought as well!:D
     
  13. winds-of-change

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    Buy it. Mark II's are great pistols. I don't believe the Mark II came with a threaded barrel. I think only the Mark III's did.
     
  14. Shintsu

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    Cool, I'll post a pic once I get it. I'd only be so lucky, as it's probably not that - but hopefully will be able to identify it.
     
  15. Shintsu

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    Ok I picked up the gun. It's definitely a Mark II 22/45, from 2000. The compensator is user removable as well, it has a single hex bolt at the top that seems to be holding it in place. I have the original sights that go on this as well if the compensator is removed. I think the barrel is maybe 4", it doesn't seem long enough to be 5" anything - did they make a 4"? I know there are target, government, competition, etc. models - just curious how one could identify. I see this one says Target on the side, so does that denote anything special?

    I looked online and funny enough the compensator on one of the Mk II's on wikipedia looked just like the one on this but in stainless. So it turns out this is definitely a Volquartsen V-Comp, seems like they still make these but at $58 a pop. Definitely cool, too bad it doesn't do more than just look cool though :p

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    So now the problem is ammo - where the heck does one buy .22 ammo? The local stores actually had plenty of .45 ACP, but no .22 to be seen anywhere.
     
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  16. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Unfortunately, 22 ammo has taken the hardest hit in the "Great Ammo Scare of 2013". Keep an eye out for it at your LGS and Wal Mart. It will show up.

    Very smart buy by the way.
     
  17. emo

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    Ask the LGS if he has some 22, some around me do not keep them out, they keep it under the counter for regulars. Even the local Walmart has been keeping it under the counter rather than in the cabinet with other ammo. Hope you enjoy it, I love my 22/45, just a pleasure to shoot.
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i have seen that compensator for sale at MidwayUSA. i just don't see it being very effective for a 22 rimfire pistol. for my needs it would be a waste of money.

    yep, 22 ammo is still scarce in some places. my WalMart usually gets ammo in early in the morning during the week. i just pick some up at the pawn shop or my LGS when i visit. no bulk packs available right now, so i just get whatever in available in the 100 packs.
     
  19. Shintsu

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    Got it, thanks all. How much did a box of say 100 rounds go for before all this madness and how much is it generally going for now? I'd like to make sure I'm not grossly overpaying for it. I thought I did ok when I found 50 count 45 ACP 230 Grain Federal for $21 a box, and the next day stumbled upon a 100-count of whitebox Winchester 45 ACP 230 grain for $43 - they had the same Federal ammo but wanted $26 for each box so I passed on that. I've noticed prices for some of the lower calibers is just as high as the larger ones. I mean, I recall seeing a 50-count box of .25 Auto for $25 and that's more than my 45 ACP cost. Sure hope this ammo craziness settles down some more, I know it's better than it was but still...needed to load up on 45 ACP to break-in my new 1911, so I'm not trying to stockpile the ammo just get enough to run the gun through its paces.
     
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  20. boatme98

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    Shintsu, it's a pristine Ruger for an amazing price. You can't go wrong there.
    As to the compensator, etc., I don't know. It appears everything was done correctly, so you've no worries there.
    Axxe knows more about that stuff, so I think you've got a keeper there.
    I've bought two guns sight unseen. One is a Colt .380, the other is a Ruger M77.
    Both times the seller said "I have a ----- I'll sell for $---.
    Both times the price was so low, I just said "I'll take it". With a name like Ruger, Colt, S&W, you can't go wrong.