what is wrong with kids today?

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Samhain, Mar 11, 2008.

  1. Samhain

    Samhain New Member

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    California police are on the scene of a shooting near a school in Long Beach that wounded a teenager.

    The condition of the victim, identified by Long Beach police only as an 18-year-old, is unknown, but police say the injuries don't appear to be life-threatening.

    The shooting occurred across the street from Star King Elementary School. Police cars have swarmed the streets around the school, live footage from KABC shows, and the school was locked down as a precaution.

    Police say they don't have a suspect in custody or a suspect description yet.
     
  2. airlink

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    I think kids today are brought up with no commen sense and everything they think is ok. After all, you don't want to hurt there feelings. Look at the schools, very PC and no whack with the big wood paddle from the School VP. I remember those days. If you got one you did not screw up again. Nobody wanted to go to the VP. Now days the kids can sue the school over anything if the child felt he was wronged or told what to do. No right or wrong. Too bad. Bring the Morals back.
     

  3. bkt

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    The only difference between a modern-day kid and a barbarian kid of 3000 years ago is his upbringing. Many kids today are not getting any upbringing at all, except by other (barbarian) kids.
     
  4. Righteous

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    its because there dam parents want to be there friend instead of being there dam parent
     
  5. hillbilly68

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    An epidemic of parent apathy and nanny state. Agree that parents don't want to be parents, most want to be kids again themselves. I'm not talking about getting on the floor and playing or acting silly with them; I'm talking about not growing up and mentoring the child. Like our brother said above, they want to only be their friends. I think you can be both. I have a theory about the baby boomer generation (OK, don't start throwing the rotten fruit gents, I am at the tail end of the boomers even though I am an early GEN Xer). I think that a percentage of them (again, I am not throwing rocks at anyone gents, I believe that if you are a part of this forum you have the qualities that are opposed to my theory no matter what generation) have been handed a lot to them that our parents (the depression / WWII generation) never had. I believe to their detriment. They grew up under the inluences of parents that knew FDR and his "the state (eg someone else) will provide" producing a generation of non self reliance that is rooted in some of the baby boomers and is passed on to their children. The result is this generation of double children where parents aren't raising, they are bystanders. Sorry 'bout the term paper gents; just an opinion to generate discussion among us. Gotta love this forum.
     
  6. GlenJohnson

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    I grew up when the teachers had he ability grab you by the nape of the neck when you were acting up, and told you to straighten up. Guess what, if a teacher touches a student now, the teacher is told to straighten up, (If the student doesn't try and take the teacher out.) Add that to the realistic games people are playing, (I won't say kids, I own a WII myself), and you've got a recipe for trouble.
     
  7. NGIB

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    Parents no longer teach responsibility and society no longer forces kids to make the right choices. My oldest daughter was a National Merit Scholar and she scored a 1570 on the SATs. A year or two later, many were complaining the SATs were unfair to some (you guess) and they "recentered" the test to bring peoples scores up arbitrarily - which cheapened her hard work.

    Kids used to have to work for grades, now it's pass/fail (light on the fail) so nobody has hurt feelings. We almost started teaching Ebonics for God's sake just to rationalize folks that can't communicate. Is it any wonder the kids of today expect everything handed to them with no effort on their part?

    We're so worried about offending somebody or hurting somebody's feelings that we as a society have regressed terribly. All I can say is I raised 3 kids to be respectful, understand the value of hard work, and dammit - they like guns and shooting...
     
  8. npbwbass

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    Ummm

    Maybe, stupid people should not breed..
     
  9. gnoll

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    so no this one stirs me up i HAVE 5 kids Rayn (9 M), Camryn(8 F), Denzol(5 M), Larie(4 F), and Topanga(3 F)!!!!!
    Ok my kids HAVE a father that cares HOW they act and how they do in school(grades and there actions in school) i have fought the school on many fronts about how other kids act!!!
    There answer is there hands are tied so now lets blame the parents (thanx)
    I am a father why do I get thrown into a group of lame self loathing F***s that dont care for there kids and just hope that a teacher messes with there kid so they can sue for there own gain!! my kids handle fire arms hunt love life and have great respect for I have dissiplen in my house and they know it!
    So i would tend to agree that it is the lazy unfocused druggy hippy parents
    and the schools fault for not standing up for the rights of the teachers!
    well that is my rant (and if you have any negative comments on my kids names you just better keep it to your self or PM me DO NOT post it here i will be very very unhappy and probiby shoot my comp)
     
  10. chorst294

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    My 2 cents

    I see the lack of parenting everyday. I see parents trying to correct their lack of action when the child was younger. The parents finally mature enough to care about what their kids do and it's usually too late. The foundation is there. I also see the lack of fathers presence. Some dirtbag fathers will take off upon hearing of their girlfriends pregnancy. A lot of parents will instantly believe their child over their teachers or police, despite overwhelming evidence of their guilt. I believe good parents produce good children if given an opportunity with a relatively positive, caring environment. Sometimes they stray, but they seem to find their way back due to the solid foundation their parents built them.
     
  11. moviezombie

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    while i agree its the parents and parenting, i certainly don't think that has anything to do with FDR. every once in awhile i see a parent disciplining their child in public for inappropriate behavior.....and i make a point of thanking them.

    movie zombie
     
  12. spittinfire

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    I think the whole problem could be corrected if parents were allowed to whoop a little ass when it was appropriate. I don't know a person on this planet that didn't benefit from a good, old fashion ass whoopin once in a while! I know I did!
    Bottom line is, parents don't want to raise their children anymore, they want the schools/government to do it. Since the government can't do it, there are no morals being taught and kids are growing up with no idea of right and wrong.
     
  13. GDS

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    There's nothing wrong with " kids " today. Kids are baby goats.

    I think you were refering to children. As has already been stated many times the supposed higher being in that childs life has failed in some capacity.
     
  14. McNabb11b

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    I chalk the problems of my generation and the further downward spiral of the next to a lack of responsibility. We don't want to be responsible for our actions and we certainly don't want to be responsible for our children's either. It is much easier to blame someone else and give "timeouts" than having some actual discipline. Instead of looking at movies, video games, and music as the source of problems, look at them as symptoms of a failing society and start changing what is really at fault; a whole culture of irresponsible, undisciplined "children" teaching bad values to the next generation. That, in return, will pass on a little more extreme version of their social delinquency. I feel that this is why every time I drive down the street I am confronted with these little pukes thumping their stereos to show how misunderstood they are and how they have little to no respect for anything including themselves. So I say use the "belt" and save ourselves from having to wade through a metaphorical cesspool of "I wanna be bad like 50 Cent" miscreants.

    Sorry, I let myself rant.:mad:
     
  15. hillbilly68

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    /\ well said, +1 (again!)
     
  16. npbwbass

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    Its funny about the logic of todays parenting teachers

    In reference to my previous post about stupid people breeding and in reading these posts I find those who love and correct their children are the smart ones. A lot of good parents are on this forum!

    The Bible says in Proverbs to "beat your child with a rod and save his soul from hell" a very interesting saying from Solomon the wisest man who ever was. If you love your children you will correct them emotionally and physically.

    But we do have the stupid ones who have children and let them run loose or follow some stupid liberal Phd training to raise their children incorrectly.

    What the hell is a matter with them? Didn't they ever notice you do not have to teach a child to be mean, selfish, cruel, lazy, and irresponsible. But you do have to teach them how to be caring, giving, polite, responsible, and hard working. Without loving discipline you will raise monsters to be unleashed on society.

    I had three children and I am proud of all of them to have survive the crap taught in schools by listening to their dad teaching them from God's parenting book.

    I'll get off my soap box now.
     
  17. McNabb11b

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    This is why my wife and I have decided to homeschool. I refuse to let the government raise my children. The argument that homeschooling doesn't let children develop social skills doesn't hold water with me.
     
  18. fxstchewy

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    Agreed, Most are Lazy and Spoiled and Most take after there Parents. :eek:
     
  19. bellx1

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    although i'm only 17, i can look around at my peers and tell that they aren't really held responsible for their actions. many of my friends parents do way too many things for them. i've known teens who've never had to prepare a meal for themselves, wash laundry, change a flat tire, or do any sort of farm labor, let alone hold a firearm.
    my parents dont give me or my brothers handouts. we work hard, then get to go have fun. my dad says hes not raising children, hes raising adults.
     
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  20. Michael P.

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    If this topic is about kids and violence, then I highly recommend the book "On Killing". I met the author a few months ago and attended his "bullet proof mind" class.

    This book talks about a lot of things from, training yourself to pull the trigger when the time comes, PTSD and several other relevant topics. But it also talks about why kids are more violent then they were in past generations. Basically referring to violent TV and video games that are training kids to be more violent. I am not going to try and make the case for this logic in this post, because a large portion of the book is dedicated to making this point. I don't think that I could do it justice in a couple of paragraphs. But I do recommend the book for many reasons, including the topic of kids and violence.