What is the norm?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by txpossum, Sep 8, 2013.

  1. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    I'm just curious. How many of y 'all out there consider polymer framed guns to be the norm, and steel or alloy framed guns to be the exception?

    It seems like polymer framed guns are getting more and more and more common, and seem to outsell more traditional guns by significant amount. I could be wrong, but if not, why? Cost? Design? Tacti-cool appeal? What?
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    well, just an observation and opinion on my part, but i think it's become about 50/50. many more gun makers are offering polymer pistols along with their steel or alloy pistols than just a few years ago. the more made by more gun makers, puts more of them available and more being sold.

    i hink alot of it comes down to difference in weight and price. the pistols can be made cheaper than their steel or alloy counterparts from the same maker, and people are wanting lighter pistols for carry. the polymer pistols have come to be known to be reliable, accurate and are usually much lighter than the steel or alloy versions.

    like i said, these are just my observations and opinions and not based on any concrete data or facts.
     

  3. otisthecat

    otisthecat New Member

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    Yeah, pretty much. It seems everyone wants a low cost low weight carry gun, so poly wins every time. While I have very little plastic in my collection, I'm just as guilty of being enamored with THE SMALLEST LIGHTEST PISTOL EVER!!!! as everyone else.

    Also, poly is way easier to mass produce. That FN/XD/M&P/Glock you've been looking for is typically readily available (for the most part), but who knows when the Colt you were drooling over in a magazine will actually make its way to a local store for you.
     
  4. rockratt

    rockratt Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    All plastic pistols are ugly period!!!!!!! I think they have gained popularity mostly because of price and weight as Axxe has already said. I will be the first to admit they do have a place. I love the 1911's and the big revolvers but it is much easier to carry a light weight plastic gun. The true works of art are still made out of steel!!!!!
    Axxe55 I like the new avatar!!!!!!! Sweet looking ride!!!!
     
  5. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    I don't pay most poly game guns much mind. But I"m not a fan of most poly frame pistols. I don't think there's a norm per se. People like the stuff they like and that's what they see most so that's their norm.
    As far as the market there are plenty of offerings form both genre of pistols so I can't see any being the exception now. A couple/few decades ago the poly frame would have been exotic and the steel the mainstream. Now days we have the steel, alloy, and poly frame all top choose from in several different flavors.
    These days the norm is just a reliable pistol.
     
  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    none of my carry guns have steel frames. steel is HEAVY, polymer and aluminum are light.

    you see a lot of poly and aluminum guns because of the enormous upsurge of concealed carry. not many people want to carry a steel framed handgun day to day
     
  7. mdauben

    mdauben New Member

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    I really think this is it. Every handgun I bought with CC in mind is alloy or polymer. Every steel frame gun I own was bought for the range, hunting or plinking.
     
  8. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    Yes.

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    Agreed with all the above. I kind of feel like poly is the norm for most people, but that's just my opinion. I personally don't generally like plastic guns as much. But weight is important in a carry piece, although I believe I'd be willing to carry almost anything with a good gun belt and holster and maybe some suspenders.
     
  9. Yunus

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    The younger you are the more likely Poly is the norm. The older you are the more likely steel is the norm.

    Being military I see more steel than polymer.
     
  10. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    I have said before, and say again, that I think that in most circumstances the weight of a carry gun is not a big factor -- at least for me. I think weight -- or lack of -- is a vastly overrated factor in choosing a carry gun. Both of my usual choices for a daily carry would be considered on the heavy side, but don't notice them and it's not unusual for me to forget that I'm carrying.
     
  11. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Weight is the biggest factor followed closely by size. The bigger and heavier a gun is the less likely your going to carry it every day all day. Its easy to slip a ruger lcp in a pocket and go to work in the office. Doing that with a couple pounds of solid steel 1911 in a office environment and keeping it covered is a bit harder.

    That's the difference. Some folks can and do carry full size steel.guns but its a very tiny minority
     
  12. bigjim

    bigjim New Member

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    I don't know which sells the most, but have a feeling it is the XD's and M&P's rather than the 1911's. I dumped my 32 oz 1911 for a 23 oz compact half steel / half plastic 45 ACP for carry. Makes a big difference in a concealed carry pistol. Now if we could open carry that might be a different story.

    Jim
     
  13. Garadex

    Garadex New Member

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    Im young and I gotta say I think that polymer is the norm but, in my opinion, steel is superior in every way except for cost and weight.
     
  14. sputnik1988

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    I don't deferentiate. There isn't enough difference in my mind to sway me either way.
     
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  15. bbertram

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    There is no lightweight pistol that I enjoy shooting. Everything I own , except the Nano, is all steel or alloy/steel. The heavier pistols are easier to shoot, the lighter pistols make better pocket guns. My Sig P-6, at 2 lbs loaded, disappears in a Crossbreed supertuck, and I can carry it all day comfortably. For waistband carry , thin is probably more important than weight, hence the popularity of decent sized .380's .
     
  16. sweeper22

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    I believe you're right about polymer's popularity eclipsing that of classic metal-framed pistols.

    It's somewhat a generational evolution. My favorite guns to shoot at the range are metal-framed 1911s (and their direct descendants) as well as a Ruger MK3. By 'descendants', I'm referring to BHP and CZ 75b for me. I really like the way each of these guns perform for me.

    But many current polymer guns seem to excel when it comes to utility. You can get a supremely reliable polymer pistol for $400-700. It will generally be high capacity. It will stand up to abuse and show limited signs of wear. Mags and accessories are generally both common and affordable. And it will be significantly lighter than a metal framed gun.

    The metal framed gun will look better. In many cases it will perform better for the shooter, especially in a slow-fire range setting. But it will be heavier, easily scarred by common use, and in many cases will cost a few hundred $ more.

    I like and have several examples of both. Love 1911/BHP/CZ/alloy Sigs. But a quality polymer handgun has a number of pragmatic qualities in it's favor IMO. Metal-framed pistols seem like classic or luxury cars, while polymer equates to a small-medium SUV that also happens to get great gas mileage. It's not that the poly is perfect for any one thing, just that it's pretty darned good at most things.