What is the most practical defensive shooting stance?

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by Poink88, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Isosceles

    7 vote(s)
    17.5%
  2. Weaver

    2 vote(s)
    5.0%
  3. Modified Weaver

    13 vote(s)
    32.5%
  4. Other (please post)

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    45.0%
  1. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    This is not geared towards target shooting, rather what you believe is the most practical defensive shooting stance?
     
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  2. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    you may not always have a choice of stances in defensive shooting you may even be sitting in your car. I would take the stance that offers the smallest target for my opponent to hit. I chose other.
     

  3. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Modified Weaver on the range for me, since targets don't shoot back!! In practicality, the most stable combat stance I can manage given the circumstances.
     
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  4. jeepcreep927

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    If it's purely "defensive", I would pick the one that makes me as far away from, and as small as possible to, the attacker.

    If there are no other options and it's game on, a very aggressive isosceles while advancing. Natural instinct is to turn away if someone's throwing things at you (watch kids playing sports) but unlike getting drilled with a soccer ball or hockey puck, a bullet in the back or under the armpit isn't going to hurt any less, or do any less damage, than one in the anterior. I'd rather maintain eyes on my target. More so if wearing body armor as it's the first piece of cover.
     
  5. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    Iso. Squared, aggressive stance, knees slightly bent, weight on balls of the feet, arms extended. A very natural, and neutral position to assume that allows for good movement in any direction.
     
  6. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I vote for the Missionary position because I'm getting the f**k out of there.
     
  7. pandamonium

    pandamonium New Member

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    That was effin funny as all git out!!! Now I gotta clean the beer offa my monitor!!

    To me it would be whatever I can get to hit the target.
     
  8. LeverGunner

    LeverGunner New Member

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    modified weaver is the best shooting stance for me, the best spot to be is behind the swat team
     
  9. polo196

    polo196 New Member

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    Check youtube for the Glock stance. It is basically the base tactical position Police Officers use, often called an FI stance. It gives you a good center of balance and the ability to be mobile, it also enables you to engage targets laterally.

    Also IMHO, there is no such thing as a defensive shooting stance. The moment rounds start flying you should be on the offense and moving towards the target while engaging with superior fire suppression and accurate marksmanship.
     
  10. RairWeatherSmok

    RairWeatherSmok New Member

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    Me, I'm going to be moving and hiding behind WHATEVER is available until I get off a shot from behind it.
     
  11. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    Reading the posts. it seems we all have different understanding/definition of what the stances are (I am confused myself). I agree with most posted...it just seems we are saying the same thing in different languages. LOL

    I understand the need to shift/adapt to the situation. Bottom line, I want to practice what I will most likely use in "dynamic" emergency situation...do not care much about perfect target groupings if I cannot carry that over in real emergency situation.

    I guess I have to look more at IDPA type training, not just range shooting.
     
  12. LeverGunner

    LeverGunner New Member

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    i think modified weaver is the most natural. it's what i developed on my own when i was first starting. only years later did i realize what it was. exposing yourself to as many different techniques and scenerios as possible will be helpful when it comes time to use what you've learned.
     
  13. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    Same is happening to me while shooting. I start consciously with Iso and finding myself unconsciously shifting to a modified Weaver...including my leg position especially when I am doing "rapid fire".
     
  14. gadrooning

    gadrooning New Member

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    I don't think enough people practice point shooting and shooting from the hip.
     
  15. PSmitty1

    PSmitty1 New Member

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    Uh-Oh SHTF.....Attacker advancing, I back up trying to create distance. I fall backwards over the unseen parking block/curb. BG is still coming. I engage the threat and shoot from the pavement laying flat on my back.

    What stance am I in?
     
  16. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    A bad one. ;) You have to make do, adjust and adapt but that is not what this poll is about (we cannot cover everything).
     
  17. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    One that encourages the use of kevlar undies, with plates. ;)

    Your poll might go better with pics of the various stances for those of us ignorant in the terminology related to proper positioning and posture for a shootout.
     
  18. PSmitty1

    PSmitty1 New Member

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    The point of my reply is this.....

    Defensively, the situation will more than likely determine what stance or partial stance you will use.

    Laying on my back I would be using a portion of the Isosceles triangle.

    If I was being robbed at gun point for my wallet, and I made the decision to respond with deadly force instead of handing over my wallet, I might be using a modified weaver.

    I voted other, but I prefer Isosceles.
     
  19. polo196

    polo196 New Member

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    Here's one of the problems with the Isoseles and Weaver. It's that whole push pull thing with the weapon. Every time you shoot your arm, elbow and push/pull is going to be a little different. It also depends on if your using a semi or revolver. Using the glock grip which is a push/push or squeezing of the pistol gives you more of a consistent grip everytime. It also ensures, with practice, your shots are more successful on target, because the weapon is at the same place every time you squeeze the trigger. Both arms straight out and slightly bent at the elbow, in front of you. My department previously used the Weaver, I can't break some of the older officers from using it, but the one's who transition to the glock grip and FI stance consistently score 15-20 points higher than their previous scores. I know I'm talking range stuff here, but what you practice, is what you do under stress.
     
  20. "Other"

    The "proper" is far too situation oriented to be pre-determined.

    I like the Weaver, but if my assailant has his hands on my throat, I'll improvise.