what is the best barrel

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by ricardo, Mar 19, 2010.

  1. ricardo

    ricardo New Member

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    I guess im getting a little excited about building a rifle, so lets just say i have a good action to start a rifle with, now! what are some of the best or is the best barrel to enlarge bullet holes with, one that i will have for years to come and know that when i pull it out of the safe its gonna perform, as long as i do my thing. im like a little kid with the thought of a new toy,lol.
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    What caliber? What length are you looking for in your barrel? How far are you going to be shooting?

    Some of the best barrel makers are all from Minnesota.

    Krieger Barrels

    Mike Rock

    Bartlein

    Any of those barrels will flat out shoot most of the people on this, or just about any other, forum.

    I have 2 Kriegers and I have a Mike Rock 5R being put on my .308 in a configuration change.
     

  3. ricardo

    ricardo New Member

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    If i do go with a short action howa, it will be 308, 26" barrel, capable of 1000 yds if needed,i have not shot this far yet but i am going to work up to it,but for the most part shorter ranges most of the time. i have a 300 win mag, and 7mm rem mag,both very good shooters, i just want a good custom rifle that i have made and want to do it right but save as much money as i can in the process.
     
  4. jeepcreep927

    jeepcreep927 New Member

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    Brux seems to be making a good name for themselves also. I think the 600 yard B/R record is currently held by a Brux barrel. Prices are starting to close in on Krieger, about the same as Bartlein. Brux's delivery time is still a few, or several , depending, weeks faster than any of the aforementioned.

    I am not sure if it's possible to name a "best" barrel. If you look at the equipment specs for the top BR shooters, you'll see a commonality (currently Krieger I think). But is that because Krieger is the "best"? I am betting it has more to do with trend. If shooter A scores with a Krieger, then you can bet others will give a Krieger barrel a try, and the trend continues. These are guys who look for any edge which they need when winning or losing comes down to thousandths of an inch.

    Unless you're a true BR guy who tweaks EVERY LITTLE piece of equipment, up to and including loading you ammo outside at the range, in the ambient temps you plan to shoot in, it might be difficult to notice a difference in the several top of the line barrels.

    I have a Brux coming in .222 Remington which I hope should be here in a few more weeks. It's going to be part of my low rent varmint project which I'll report on soon hopefully.
     
  5. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Ricardo, before you go ANY further, I am going to insist that you buy and read:

    The Ultimate Sniper by Maj. John Plaster ( Retired ) *link doesn't work*

    This book is going to save you a TON of money and disappointment in misconceptions of what the .308 will do, and what it will NOT do.

    Trust me. I have a .308 that was built from the ground up to be a tactical, long range, Zombie life taker. Even that rifle is NOT a 1,000 yard killer.

    You would be better served getting your 300 Win mag or your 7mm rebarreled for 1,000 yard shooting than building a .308 from the ground up for the exact same purpose.

    JD
     
  6. ricardo

    ricardo New Member

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    I have honestly thought about doing that, both of my rifles are shooting 1/2" groups at 100yds prone, one is a winchester laredo LRH 7mag, the 300 win mag is a savage 110fcp-k just bought last fall, so would they handle the long range stuff ? i mainly am just itchin to have a new toy that i can shoot,drool on and sleep with if need be,jk on the latter.
     
  7. mrm14

    mrm14 Active Member

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    I'm rather fond of Krieger barrels.
     
  8. ricardo

    ricardo New Member

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    Dillinger, I have heard that book mentioned before ,i guess i will give it a good read and see what happens next,i will check out the krieger barrels to, thanks guys for the info.
     
  9. M14sRock

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    Good advice from JD.

    The .308 runs out of steam around 800. It is too unstable and slow past that distance for most applications.

    I shoot it at 1,000 regularly and it is not efficient enough. Your .300WM is a better choice. Or have your short action done in .260Rem.

    And while there are many excellent bbl makers out there, the Krieger bbls are tough to beat.
     
  10. Mutabam

    Mutabam New Member

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    If you're primarily going to be shooting @ 1000 yds, then go with the 300 Win Mag or something similar. I doubt that the OP has to worry about the "killing" ability @ 1000 yds, as I'd guess it's unlikely he's going to be doing any 1000-yd killing. :)

    You might find that shooting at 10 football fields' distance isn't as exotic as you might think. Could be that most of your shooting will be done @ 600 yds and under, in which case, the .308 will do anything you want to do.
     
  11. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    For a new barrel I would really look at getting the 5r barrel over a standard 6 grove. . Much better set up and the theory behind the idea looks very sound to me.

    5-R Rifling


    As far as the 308 you can get plenty of cartridges chambered with the same bolt face that will provide you a much better 1000 yard gun. Look at the 260 remington or 7mm-08 both will provide you with much better down range performance than a 308. Also look at the 6.5-284 and the 284 both of these will really give you more performance over the 308.

    That is unless you are going to buy a much of Federal GMM or Black hills 175gr match loads and have the barrel throated to that specific load.

    To shoot 1000 yards the cartridge doesn't have to have MAGNUM in the name.
     
  12. ricardo

    ricardo New Member

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    I am almost certain most of my shooting will be done well under the 1000yd mark,but i do want to fling some way out there from time to time just to learn what i need to know to be able to do it,and be fairly good at it.
     
  13. Fast Ed

    Fast Ed New Member

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    Minnesota??

    Krieger, Bartlein, Brux, Badger, Obermeyer, and Broughton are all in Wisconsin! Granted, a lot of east and west coasters don't know the difference between Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin or anywhere else they consider "fly-over country", but I work 5 miles from Krieger and Bartlein and I know they are in Wisconsin.

    I have great shooting barrels from Krieger, Obermeyer, and Brux. I would also recommend Bartlein as they are ex-Krieger guys I know are doing great work.

    Fast Ed
     
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  14. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    *Doh!*

    You're right. It's one of those snow covered states. :eek: