What courts may dig up on you

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by wittmeba, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. wittmeba

    wittmeba New Member

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    With all the technologies used today (wiretaps, cell phones, texting, internet tracks, police records, etc) does anyone other than me ever think about what I post being used against me if ever involved in an incident?

    I would think that how I respond to threads, what I read, my tagline, threads I initiate - this could suggest my general attitude toward guns, violence, perpetrators, robberies, etc.

    We can get very emotional about criminals and violence, particularly crimes against women and children and it makes me wonder what a prosecution could do with some of this information.

    Anyone else ever think about this?
     
  2. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    First the prosecutor has to get a warrant to get this information from the NSA. Right now judges are issuing warrants for the GPS information from a given phone to locate criminals. Trials are complicated enough as it is. I am not sure that judges will issue a warrant or want to hear more character material that is not relevant to the charges one is being tried for.
     

  3. activereality

    activereality New Member

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    This is already a practice. It isn't even that far fetched. If Facebook can be admissible, under the right conditions, then so can anything involved with social media.
     
  4. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    They can't do one damn thing until you are arrested for a crime.

    i'm nearly 75 years old; my tolerance for violent predators has not moderated with age. OK prosecuors very seldom charge folks who are involved in righteous shootings. If i were to get charged, i could care less what the prosecutor dredges up from the internet. What matters is the fact that me and mine have survived.

    Yeah, some alleged gunowners claim those of us who are prepared to defend themselves are "vigilantes" and that talking about self defense is falling into the trap of anti-gun liberals.
     
  5. FrontierTCB

    FrontierTCB Active Member

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    This is correct. A warrant may have to be issues but today that can take all of 15 min. The NSA does not have to be involved. A forensic search can be conducted on any computer or smart phone. This also reveals "deleted" material. These exams can be conducted at most any modern crime lab.
     
  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Leading your online life fearing what someone else thinks is silly. Leading your online life in such a way that demonstrates a childish nature when no one is looking at you personally and only through an anonymous avatar simply shows a total lack of character.
     
  7. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Excellent!!!!

    A person who finds himself charged with murder or manslaughter after killing someone has much larger problems than anything he may have posted on the web.

    1. The cops did not believe your story.
    2. The prosecutor did not believe your story.
    3. The grand jury or the judge who bound you over for trial had problems with your story.

    There is a very good chance a jury of your peers will not believe your story. You are in deep doo doo.
     
  8. GTX63

    GTX63 New Member

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    Even with electronics, life today isn't so different from long ago. There are infinite examples in the past when someone was in peril of being turned in to authorities or being watched over what they said, believed, or even spoke in casual conversation. I can choose not to speak my mind out of respect or tact, but I won't be silenced over fear or the possibility of repercussions by some suits with sunglasses or a man with a gavel.
     
  9. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    I sure wouldn't post anything about illegal activity, if that is what you are referring to. That's just common sense. Otherwise, I don't know what there is to worry about....
     
  10. wittmeba

    wittmeba New Member

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    Whoa, Jon. I'm just thinking about situations like the concerns for gun mods being used against you. They can be damaging to your character which can be on trial as well.

    I'm just thinking about some of the taglines and rather harsh comments made by some one these forums. The comments may be made in vain but who's to say they wouldn't be brought up in the heat of a courtroom battle when someone is killed legally or not.

    I'm not sure how convincing I could be by appearing on this forum to be swing an ax at every perp then convince a jury I'm really a nice guy. What are they going to see?
     
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  11. eatmydust

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    wittmeba - I was pondering the same thing that you bring up in your OP, earlier this morning, reading thru a thread. With the nature of character assassination in today's courts, I am amazed that more social media hasn't been used to discredit more witnesses, defendants & plaintiffs.
     
  12. Tackleberry1

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    Bingo... Enough said.

    If you wouldn't say it to your friends, Familly, and coworkers... Then you probably should not type it as your just showing yourself to be a "paper tiger."

    I'm as passionate as they come and more critical of Government than most but at the end of the day, the only excuse for violence is self defense/self preservation.

    ...and yes, that should be interpreted as a scathing rebuke of Capitol Punishment... Not because some folks don't deserve it, but because I lack any faith in our Gooberment to get it "right."

    Tack
     
  13. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If you find yourself in court charged with murder or manslaughter you have much bigger problems than anything you could have posted on the web. Unless, of course you admitted to the crime on the web.
     
  14. artbrownsr

    artbrownsr Forum Chaplain Lifetime Supporter

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    I generally post as I speak in open situations, my thoughts on guns, self defense, home life etc. are well known to my family, friends, work associates, and neighbors. IF I had a secret thought, I'd probably KEEP it secret!
     
  15. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Do not put anything on the internet you do not want the WORLD to see!!! It is just that simple.;)
     
  16. G30USMC

    G30USMC New Member Supporter

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    +1000..........
     
  17. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    That includes email and private messengers. No electronic communication has ever has been private. Remember carnivore?
     
  18. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    It has occurred to me that if the authorities were ever to find saaaaaaaaay a pile of bear bones or even just a bear scrotum collection in my home, I could be in deeeeep doodoo that would probably be enhanced in stickiness and stinkiness by my comments on the interwebs.

    The tree cops can kiss my butt, at least unless they catch me with some physical evidence. :p
     
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  19. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Awesome idea.
    Beer scrotum tobacco pouch.