What classifies something as a 1911?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by BeyondTheBox, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Does it actually have to have the specific nomenclature designation of 1911? Does it simply have to have the main operating functions of the original 1911?

    Do tell.
     
  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    To be a "1911";

    I have more,
     

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  3. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    In other words it has to look like this...

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  4. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    So no commander or officer or whatever they call the shorter barrel versions?
     
  5. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    [​IMG]

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  6. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Depends on how specific you want to be.

    A 1911 would be the model of automatic pistol that Colt began manufacturing in 1911, designed by John Browning mostly by 1909. The 1911A1 featured a few changes in mainspring housing, grip safety, thumb safety, trigger and hammer spur.

    Key features would be the detatchable barrel bushing, swinging link, single action trigger, grip safety, and additional thumb safety. The entire pistol as originally designed could be disassembled using only the parts of the pistol itself.

    Fast forward and things have changed. Some manufacturers have utilized external extractors, done away with barrel bushings, made full length guide rods, ambidextrous safeties, beavertail grip safeties, dovetailed sights, extended and flared mag wells, etc, etc...
     
  7. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Even if Colt, they are only a copy of John Moses Browning's original M1911.
     
  8. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    So for you it has to meet the precise specifications and measurements of the original 1911? So if someone mods their original 1911 to alter any of these specifications it would no lonher be considered a 1911? What if a manufacturer did it?
     
  9. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    Damn Cane...that's a museum quality piece, yours?
     
  10. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Again, there are technically differences between the 1911 and 1911A1
     
  11. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    A true "1911" is what Cane described...over the years the name has evolved to describe an entire sub-group of handgun models based on the original JMB design. Sorta like the PC, technically the only true PC was manufactured by IBM but an unlimited number of clones now own the market.
     
  12. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    some very interesting opinions on this here subject. just wanted to post so as to soak up some information.
     

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  13. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Yes it's my Colt Model O1911ANVIII a replica of the Colt 1918. (Unfired)

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    That's a photo of it! Yes, it's that good looking!
     
  14. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Exactly, 1911 seems to've become more of a concept than a tangible item.
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    absolutely beautiful looking pistol! perfection!:D
     

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  16. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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  17. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Please do not confuse a "1911 pistol" with a "1911 pattern pistol".

    It's easy to do. [​IMG]
     
  18. tacticalfun

    tacticalfun Active Member

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    Wowwww cane....that things jaw dropping.
     
  19. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Pattern? Difference?
     
  20. tacticalfun

    tacticalfun Active Member

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    Look at pattern as.... Looks like a 1911.my heinie 10mm looks like a 1911 but....it has a 6" slide and its 10mm