What can I do with a coach gun?

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by therhino, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. therhino

    therhino New Member

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    Hey all.
    I just got my yearly company bonus, and it's enough to put toward an inexpensive shotgun. I've got my Ruger 10-22, and want to expand the collection to include a shotgun, and one handgun.
    I've always wanted a coach gun, ever since the first time I saw Steve McQueen in "The Magnificent Seven."
    My main intent for such a purchase would be home defense, but I'd also like to be able to fire it from time to time recreationally. I don't know a ton about shotgun sports, but I do know that trap and skeet require a minimum barrel length, correct? My coach gun would be far below that minimum.
    What, if anything, can one do recreationally with a coach gun?
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Find an outdoor range that is fine with you shooting up hard targets and destroy just about anything you can get your hands on. :D

    Practically they aren't much use, but if time is not of an issue and you are just having fun, they are a blast to shoot and they certainly can make a mess out of some pumpkins and watermelons....LOL

    JD
     

  3. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You could get into SASS shooting. The Single Action Shooting Society uses pre 1900 type firearms for wild west themed competition. WARNING...you can spend a butt load of $ once you have been biten by this kind of shooting sport.
     
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Maybe some dove hunting; might want to be solo the first few times.
     
  5. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I've wanted one too just because they're cool. However, for home/self defense, an inexpensive pump action will serve you better.

    Not to rain on your parade here, but you may want to acquire the self defense part of your arsenal first before you branch out to the "toys".
     
  6. therhino

    therhino New Member

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    Purely based on rate of fire, yes? There is a Legacy Sports Escort 12ga pump with an 18.5" barrel available at the shop I've been doing my browsing at, for $250 at 90% condition. Not a bad gun, but is it a reliable brand?

    To be honest, part of my decision-making has to factor in my wife, who doesn't want a loaded weapon in the house for whatever reason. No kids in the house, but she's cautious. I'm not oging to attempt to plumb the depths of female thinking here (lol), but in order to help her feel safer about the gun, I was thinking that a coach gun with empty chambers and a stock band with rounds in would be better than an unloaded pump with the same stock band. i may be 100% wrong, though. Any opinions on this?

    Could you refine that statement for me? Do you mean "buy a solid pump gun first", or "get your handgun first", or something else entirely?

    Thanks for all the help and feedback, everyone. Keep it coming!
     
  7. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    You have your own philosophy in mind and I'm not a mind reader, so I was assuming that you are interested in self defense as well as the more fun aspects of firearms. Maybe I shouldn't have assumed anything at all. ;)

    I was thinking about something like a Mossberg 500A with two barrels. That's what I have and it's an excellent combination. A long vent ribbed barrel for game or skeet/trap and an 18.5" barrel for defense.

    Here's a link to something close to what I'm talking about on Gunbroker: Mossberg 500 3 in 1 Home/Hunting/Cruiser 12 GA 3" : Pump at GunBroker.com

    Mine didn't come with a pistol grip and since I bought it years ago, it was cheaper too. If there's a Big 5 sporting goods near you, they have them on sale all the time. It's a sensible and solid choice.

    There are other quality and reasonably priced shotguns as well. Maverick is the budget line from Mossberg and they're good guns. Winchester makes great shotguns, but they cost more than a Mossberg for an entry level gun.

    I hope this clarifies things for you.
     
  8. therhino

    therhino New Member

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    You assumed right ;).
    I am just trying to stretch my dollar and combine the fun with the utility. Of ocurse, stretching ones dollar across those two realms might be a bad idea.
    That is a solid packge you linked. No Big 5 around here, but Cabela's is local (though not my first choice) and sells the package for about the same price.
    I hadn't even thought about buying multiple barrels. /headsmack.
     
  9. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Yep, it will only take you a heartbeat to load the coach gun while your body is dumping adrenaline by the bucket full’s honing your fine motor skills to a comfortably numb state.

    Albeit, it’ll probably be your last heartbeat.

    Sorry to be so ruthless but I don’t plan on being found dead with an empty gun in my hands unless I’m standing in ankle-deep brass.


    I don’t dumb down my EDC to be safe, I carry it in Condition One and only.
    When I safely draw it from my holster it will be extremely dangerous as I blow the dirtbag’s heart out! -
    cane
     
  10. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    That sounds about right rhino. I don't know if there are any discount sporting goods stores in your vicinity, but you will likely find it cheaper at one of those.

    I didn't recommend a used shotgun because if you're not sure what you're looking at, you can wind up with a bad one.

    Good luck with your search and if I can help in any way, you can always send me a PM. There are no dumb questions.
     
  11. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    I'd like to have a coach gun some day; but other than SASS, I don't know much sporting to do with it.

    And I agree, I'm much more comfortable handling a break action than any other type.
     
  12. therhino

    therhino New Member

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    Also of note is the fact that we have an 84 pound boxer who sleeps in the living room, and is an excellent watch dog. Not a guard dog, but a great watchdog. He lets us know anytime someone walks by the house, anytime the trash truck stops to pick up the trash, or the mailman opens the mailbox out by the street. His warning would allow for time to get up, assess, and load.

    How quickly, with reasonable practice, can a pump gun be loaded with 3-4 rounds from empty?
     
  13. mach1337

    mach1337 New Member

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    with practice pretty quick. i mean if you look at the 3 gun compatition they reload really fast. but they practice that day in and day out. however here in the military they want us to load our mossy's one way and one way only barrel down range and held at the waist. me personally i like to flip mine over so i can see the breach and load my shells. you get pretty proficient pretty quick. id say shells near buy 5-15 seconds. maybe more in a high stress enviroment...
     
  14. JTJ

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    I keep the mag tube full and the chamber empty. Racking the slide is quick once you learn where the slide release is. We each have bedside 9mm semi autos. Get your wife to take a womens only shooting class preferably with a woman instructor. Once she learns she can shoot better than you the problem is gone.:)
     
  15. LYPNELSON

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    I WAS FORTUNATE ENUF TO FIND A MAVERICK SECURITY PUMP FOR $150.
    ALSO A DOUBLE BARREL FOR ABOUT THE SAME PRICE RANGE; BOTH FROM
    A RELIABLE GUN STORE. THE BOSS LADY IS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE
    SxS, SO THAT'S WHAT SHE HAS ON HER SIDE OF THE BED.:D

    WHICHEVER ONE YOU DECIDE TO BUY, PRACTICE WITH IT & SHOOT IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH VARIOUS TYPES OF SHOT. BEWARE: ONCE YA START SHOOTIN' A SHOTGUN, YOU WILL BE ADDICTED. PLUS IT'S THE BEST STRESS RELIEF BESIDES FISHIN'!! :D:D
     
  16. jd45

    jd45 New Member

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    Well, if it were me, I'd get one in 10 Guage, (the preferred brand would've been Meteor) first. Some of you might know where I'm goin with this. Then, I'd have a machinist, (no gunsmith would do it, I suspect) saw the barrels & the buttstock off behind the pistolgrip, & just in front of the tip of the forearm. Next, I'd have a brass ring installed atop the barrels at a point to bring the gun level as I open my greatcoat. The gun is hung over my shoulder by a leather lanyard, of course. I'd call it my "Street Howitzer" & if I'd been Dr. John H. Holliday on October 26th, 1881 I'd've been using it to blast away at the Clanton's & the McLaury's. Please forgive me,.......I just couldn't resist! jd45
     
  17. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Check around in your area for a Skeet club. Ask them if they enforce the barrel length policy. Many do not.

    My Trap and Skeet club never cared. Then about 10 years ago I was told that my 20" was not allowed, but my 21" was. I explained how ridiculous that rule was, considering how many shooters have short barrelled shotguns and need to know how they shoot. Now they allow any length tube again.
     
  18. Tactical_Lever

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    Well, that's weird. I did not expect a thread about coach guns to go instantly to home defense. Well if that's the case, I would disconnect the automatic safety, if it has one, and hone the cylinders so a quick flick will clear the empties if it does not have ejectors.

    The pump gun may hold more, if you leave the plug out, but it will still only be about six shells in the mag. The sxs can probably be reloaded quicker by a hair though. A few rounds should do it, but why leave it to chance?

    Don't buy the coach gun for home defense, or any shotgun if you want the best. Get something like a PPSh-41, with a drum mag and a couple of sticks. Or maybe a nice AR, with a couple of 30 round mags.

    Or even a nice semi-auto pistol would be a good choice. Less punch, but an edge in weapon retention, and a quick reload. You could also fit one into a Ronin chassis as well. Not really my flavour, but a Glock in 45 ACP, and in a Ronin with a reflex sight on top, flashlight on the bottom, with a big mag and 2 more on board seems like a pretty hot defense set up.

    Takes too long to fumble in rounds in a tube fed shotgun.

    How old are the kids? Old enough to be world proofed, or young enough that they lack the strength to rack a stiff slide?
     
  19. Tactical_Lever

    Tactical_Lever New Member

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    Now that was probably not what you wanted to hear. Buy a nice Baikal, with screw in chokes, and take it out for upland birds, ducks, geese, close range deer, black bear, and predator hunts.

    Ride shotgun! Had to be said...;)

    Go cowboy action shooting. You can do just about anything with it, except saying its the best at everything. Ceptin' maybe lookin' cool and bein' ready with an assortment of brass shells hung around yer waist with trusty scattergun restin' crossways on the saddle...:cool:
     
  20. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    Get a Mossberg 500 combo. There is no way in hell even Jerry Mikulec can shoot a coach gun faster than an experienced shooter can shoot a pump. After a few years of hunting with a pump one should have no problem stuffing shells in the magazine tube while scanning the sky for more doves or even walking through the woods.

    http://www.gunsandammo.com/personal...-mossberg-500-best-home-defense-shotgun-time/

    Here is an inexpensive gun that will get the job done for home defense. You will have enough left in your bankroll to buy a dedicated hunting shotgun or nice pistol. Maverick is made by Mossberg. It has a cross bolt safety on the trigger guard instead of the tang safety on the receiver. But everything except the forestock is the same as a Mossberg 500. With 8 shots in the gun and 5 more in an elastic sleeve on the stock you should be able to handle whatever gets in your house.
    http://gunbuyer.com/p-58951-maverick-88-20-8-shot-pump-action-12ga-shotgun.aspx#.VAxAlxazjIU
     
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