What caliber for first rifle?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Chubbyhawaiian, May 3, 2012.

  1. Chubbyhawaiian

    Chubbyhawaiian New Member

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    I'm looking for advice on what caliber bolt action rifle to get. It's primarily going to be used for the range up to 400 yards and maybe varmits if their in the wrong place at the wrong time haha. I own lots of handguns but never got into the rifles much except for a s&w m&p 15-22 for the kids. One of my main considerations is affordable inexpensive ammo. Thoughts?
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    The .22 is about as cheap as it gets. Next I always suggest the nagant. You can pick one up for under $150 and surplus ammo is cheap and abundant. The 7.62x54R also packs a great punch.
    It's hard to be $4 for 20 shots.
     
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  3. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    700. It's .308, ammo is plentiful, and you can add to the rifle as your interest in shooting it grows. It meets your 400 yard criteria too.
     
  4. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Centerfire, bolt action, "varmint" accurate to 400 yds, and cheap to shoot?

    Probably a Savage .308 with accu-trigger--if you are even considering
    big game hunting at some time in the future.

    If bigger critters are not on the menu--maybe a Savage in 223.

    The Mosin is cheap and cheap to shoot, but I wouldn't call it a 400 yd
    gun, unless your varmints are 6 ft tall.
     
  5. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    You guys do realize the 7.62 is basically a .308. (not putting down your suggestions in any way)
    Shots out past 400 are possible but really...why?
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7KryjHnRrc&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]
     
  6. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    .223 has very economical ammo with a wide variety to choose from. Energy at 400 yards depends on the target size.
     
  7. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If you're set on a bolt action, A Remington 700 in .223 would be hard to beat.
     
  8. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Yes, the Mosin Nagant and its 30 caliber rimmed cartridge is a renowned 400 yard varmint gun. And a Mini-14 is the same as an AR.
    :rolleyes:

    .223 hard to beat? Easier than a red-headed stepchild... Go w/a .243. Affordable, accurate, comfortable, common popular necked-down .308 that bridges your interests. A decent Savage bolt in that chambering would probably be what I'd gravitate towards.

    Her're the .223, .243 and the .308
     

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  9. mountainman13

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    At around $1 its real cheap to shoot:roll eyes:
     
  10. sniperrifleman

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    The-armory.com sells 880 rounds for the Mosin for only $135.99
     
  11. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Read the last line of op: affordable ammo.
     
  12. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    .243 ammo is considerably more expensive than .223 or even .308.

    The .243 is a wonderful hunting cartridge. But for a new shooter trying to learn basics, by doing a lot of shooting, it is expensive.
     
  13. HockaLouis

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    I don't really agree. Is it a little more expensive than .308? Yup. And take .223 off the table altogether -- it doesn't fit the bill. .243 is comparatively VERY affordable vs. most centerfire rounds because it is one of the most popular cartridges and it's BASED on those inexpensive .308's.

    You might try shopping around a little more...

    Just one check at sponsor Brownells showed:

    The top three sellers in .308* went from $16.99 to $27.99 and in .243 from $17.29 to $22.39.

    The least expensive .308 was $10.16 (for unreloadable zinc-plated steel-cased Russian) and the .243 was $16.99 (for Winchester).

    *I wonder if any of them are that popular .308 varmint round? LOL
     
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  14. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    He's asking for a 400 yard range gun with affordable and inexpensive ammo, but hock says the .223 should be taken off the table. Am I missing something?
     
  15. 7mmstw

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    Savage in 223. Bought 50 rounds of black hills match the other day for $26. That's hard to beat. Easy 400 yard gun. And could always swap barrels later.

    don't live vicariously
     
  16. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    Browning x or a bolt 308. Power and range and with light loads a good varmint gun
     
  17. Shoobee

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    First rifle I ever shot was a semi-auto .22LR. I was 12 at the time. I don't remember make and model.

    Second rifle I ever shot was a .30-30 belonging to my uncle. I was 16 at the time. All I remember was it was a Winchester lever action.

    Third rifle I ever shot was a 7.62mm M-14A1. I was 19 at the time. This rifle had been issued to me. It was one of the few with a beautiful wooden stock.

    Fourth rifle I ever shot was a 5.56mm M-16A1. I liked the M-14 better though, even though it was heavier.

    First hunting rifle that I ever owned was a 7mm-08 Remington model 700. That was 26 years ago.

    Now I own a .300 RUM Remington model 700, the most perfect of all scoped bolt action hunting rifles in North America.
     

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  18. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    No, it's me -- I thought he wanted to hunt too.

    OK I'm on the .223 bandwagon.
     
  19. dks7895

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    This is a no brainer. 223 in whatever you like. Savage with accutrigger is a fine choice.