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Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Oldoutlaw, Feb 11, 2020.
That is one of my problems. Renting one of any thing other than a Glock in this area.
The P238 is very easy to strip. No paper clips and dont have to hold your mouth just right.
Something in the Walther PPK, Makarov size range with a pretty decent trigger, not too pricey, not ugly. Bersa Thunder. I think the trigger on these beats the PPK, and costs half as much.
Steve stay away from the small 1911 style 380 s particularly anything that has Kimber on it.
My Walther PPK/S was a heavy jamomatic. I'd carry the Mak over it.
I have a new Kahr CW40. They have a decent reputation. Once I got past the break in period it has run flawlessly. Better accuracy then my 9mm. Shield. Kahr specializes in carry pieces. Their small 380s get good reviews, Their polymer 9s weigh 15 oz. and run all day.
S&W makes a 380 M&P EZ. Might check it out.
Have you shot a LCPII?
Nope. Don't know anyone here who may have one.
No paper clips or tools on the Kimber either.
One of my coworkers just bought the LCPII. He really likes it. I have a regular LCP that I have had for several years. I really like it for its size and ease of carry. I shoot it well, but I won’t call it a fun gun to shoot. I keep it because it fills a space in my carry options. Haven’t seen a reason to replace it, with the performance I do get out of it. Not worth spending more and buying something else that would basically be in the same niche, and not really do anything it does at a level so much higher to make it worth the trouble.
Best bang for the buck 380 is the Bersa IMHO. The PP series tend to bite if you have anything larger than small hands. The LC380 is a good choice too. LCP is just a bit too small and no fun to practice with. Also in my experience the LC380 is a bit harder to find than the Bersa.
Colt Govt. .380 & Bersa Thunder .380
Sig P239, 9mm (out of prod.) 25.2 oz., Ruger Security Six, 357, Bersa .380, Colt .380
The Sig is my edc, the Colt if I'm dressed and need a smaller piece.
I don't think I've ever seen a negative review on the colts. Old or new models.
I'm tossing around the idea of selling it. I don't think you'd like the price, though, it would probably make a grown cry and a wife start divorce proceedings.
Yes, the Makarov's are better. And I've heard about those alloy frames cracking. I still like it for hot weather carry. Mine was like new when I got it and it sat in a drawer for years until I dug it out a couple of years ago. I'm always looking for a Makarov in my LGS.
In the Makarov/Bersa/G42 size guns, look really hard at the S&W 380 EZ. Light,
easy to rack, low felt recoil, magazines easy to load. Wife is a small person with
arthritis in her hands. Bought herself one and loves it.
I would highly recommend a KAHR P-380!
As you can see it is very light very small and conceals "Very Easily"
I have had one for years and most of the time I carry it in a DeSantis Nylon Ankle Holster. Or in a inside pocket holster (Pouch). It is so easy to carry one could easily forget you even have it on.
Not only is it small but is very accurate. I have done head shots with no problem at 25 yards during my Presidential 218 Annual Qualification. And they have a great Trigger Pull. You can also get an extended magazine plate for the Pinky Finger to rest on. And they do come with Trijicon Sights if you order the pistol with them. They are a little more expensive than some 380s but more than worth the money! Best little conceal pistol I have ever carried.
Here is my KHAR P-380. My wife has a Glock Model 42 380 which is a nice pistol as well in 380 cal.
My preference is the Bersa Thunder .380: inexpensive, reliable, just the right size/weight, and a joy to shoot, easy to clean. Stay away from the CC model: my preference was the "Combat" model (molded hand-grip, lower sights, can take the DLX mag (nine rounds)). Good back-pocket model, hefty enough to use as a weapon without shooting if need-be, but no so heavy as to be a challenge for EDC. FMJ .380 is nothing to sneeze at for penetration, either...
Probably better considered a semi compact.
I just sold two NEW Unissued Bulgarian Maks a week ago today.
Is it true the Russian Mak ammo is hotter?
Some of it is pretty hot Military specs. The LVE labeled Russian seldom shows up here, but it is supper stuff. I have some Wolf that shoots really good. It has a bit more recoil to it also.
I shoot some brass cased US made ammo, but I do like some of the Russian stuff better.
@Oldoutlaw if I was going t get another pistol this year, it would be the Glock 42. It seems to be the most accurate 380 in at least one video I watched. I think I posted the Paul Harrell video on the "other" forum, he shoots the Baby Rock, LCP2, PPK, G42, and maybe one other, and the Glock had the best grouping for accuracy.