Went to the range today before work and got about 175 rounds off, and i know for a fact that i don't like the remmington ammo that i bought. But the winnchester ammo i tried works well for me. Most of my shooting was at 10-12 yards. And a couple that were 25 yards, but i won't even talk about those today. It took a little bit to figure out what worked best for my shooting style but im getting there. That was 12 rounds at 12 yards And about 30 minutes of practice. That's my best one i had a few on other targets that were pretty random but i didn't take them ones with me.