Weird self defense shooting in Detroit

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by clip11, May 6, 2011.

  1. clip11

    clip11 New Member

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    Detroit Shootout Leaves Father Dead, Teens Injured - Video - WDIV Detroit

    Two guys went into a liquor store to buy condoms. A third guy was in there, and I guess they all started talking and at some point it was about the girls they were about to have sex with.

    The third guy walks outside and see's it is his 14 y/o daughter and her friend the guys are about to have sex with. He gets mad and pulls out his gun and starts shooting (btw the dad is out on parole and as such, is not to suppose to even touch a gun, yet he is carrying one around. Goes to show you how useless gun laws are at keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, heres his MDOC rap sheet Offender Tracking Information System (OTIS) - Offender Profile).

    Well his aim must've been horrible, because he accidently shoots his daughter and daughters friend. One of the guys pulls out his gun and shoots the dad in the chest, killing him. Police are not charging the guy with murder, but still on weapons charges (this is insane, a man defends his life, but still commits a crime because he didn't have big brother governments permission to do so!!!).
     
  2. Dzscubie

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    Sorry, This POS was going to have sex with a 14 year old!!! If you want sympathy you can find it in a dictionary between sh*t and syphilis. Both were douches and are not examples of good gun ownership.


    Scubie
     

  3. therewolf

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    Yeah I have to agree with Dzscubie, this situation makes us all look like

    goons. This is the kind of "Wild West" crap the media has a heyday with.

    Responsible gun owners don't need the negative press, especially now.

    Even though it's a perfect example of proper ownership vs criminal, and

    justified defense vs. irresponsible criminal behavior, it's the kind of thing

    which opens a can of worms and creates bad will with an otherwise

    benevolent non gun using public.

    The next question which will inevitably pop up is who had been drinking,

    how much, etc.
     
  4. canebrake

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    You say Detroit, I say Galápagos.
     

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  5. clip11

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    IMO there was a better way to handle this. I mean look at the results, the two girls are in the hospital and the father is dead. Looking at it from an objective point of view, the guys did have the right to defend their lives. Also, I think the guys were 18 or 19 themselves. Dont get me started on what I think of statuatory laws...three words: femininsm hate & men.
     
  6. Car54

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    C'mon Cane, you really miss up there don't you?
     
  7. Car54

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    I would be willing to bet that dad never gave it a thought that those punks might also be armed. Too late now.

    I spent many years in and around Detroit and unfortunately this is the way of life there in most cases.
     
  8. clip11

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    Yeah...in Detroit, you have to assume every man if armed. Even if they aren't you just have to assume.
     
  9. Alchemist

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    FWIW... Newscast said a single .22 shot to the chest did him in...
     
  10. dog2000tj

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    So are you suggesting that it is ok for 18/19yo males to engage in sex with a 14yo? :confused: Please explain :cool:
     
  11. canebrake

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    If a man isn't armed in Detroit then he was just mugged!
     
  12. canebrake

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    The ONLY things I miss are;
    • Lafayette Coney Island (more for the social entertainment than the food)
    • The Cadieux Cafe (not sure if it's for the mussel's or the feather bowling)
    • Tunnel Bar-B-Q (ribs, Dah....)
    • The clam chowder at Pampa Lanes - Warren
    • Thunder Fest (hydroplane races) on the Detroit River
    • The Detroit International Auto Show at Cobo Hall
    None of which has got me to return in the past 10 years!

    Hell even Nuge, The Motor City Madman, moved out-of-state.

    "You say Detroit, I say Galápagos." - cane
     
  13. Car54

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    I did hit Lafayette last month when I was up there. Anytime I'm in the downtown area around lunch time, it's a given to stop there. At dinnertime, it's Xochimillco's.

    Sorry Clip, we're busting your thread, we'll quit soon.
     
  14. clip11

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    In general, statuatory laws, like child support laws were invented by feminists to screw men over. Up until recently (the 2nd half of the 20th century) teens for the most part were considered adults. At 15, George Washington was on the battlefield fighting indians.

    Contrary to popular belief, pedophiles are those attracted to pre pubescent children, not just someone "underage". A girl that is past puberty and thus a fully developed woman, it is natural for a man to be attracted to them. That's just biology. It's just an arbitrary legal definition. Here in MI the AOC is 16, next door in Illinois its 17. So if a 20 y/o guy has sex with his 16 y/o gf in Detroit, it's perfectly ok, but if he has sex with the same girl in Chicago, he's a pedophile, that's stupid.

    And those laws are never equally applied to women, just like child support laws. If a 18 or 19 y/o woman had sex with a 14 y/o boy, everyone would look the other way, but when it's reversed, well thats different.

    I was reading that feminists want to get the AOC to do porn raised to 21. Well whats does that mean? It means that if you happen to be watching a porn movie or have a naked picture of a 20 y/o woman on your computer, you're instantly a pedophile and in possession of child porn. This type of thing is made to screw men.

    But this guy explains it better than me: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ0iHFmvOPo]YouTube - Obamas Butt-gate[/ame]
     
  15. orangello

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    Nice shot placement!
     
  16. canebrake

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    It comes from years of experience.

    He was 18, right?
     
  17. cuate

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    Detroit

    It is my understanding that Detroit has become the scum hole of the US with
    damn few Scotch-Irish and American Indians, Checks, Germans or Englishmen.

    And that CRIME is rampant. I would not be surprised if there was even Terrorist activity. I have never been there and there is another note, I will never !!!
     
  18. dog2000tj

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    Can you provide credible sources to back up this claim?

    The required minimum age to enter Military service in WWII was 17. Are you suggesting that anyone under the age of 17 was considered an adult?

    That was over 260yrs ago. Fought any Indians lately have you? Are you suggesting we march our 15yo's over to Iraq and Afghanistan to fight terrorists?

    Again I'm going to have to ask for some credible sources on this argument. Your use of the term "underage" is vague and obviously biased. So please clarify what constitutes a pedophile as per current US statues.

    Arbitrary according to whom?

    Is that your rational well thought out rebuttle to Statutory Laws - "that's stupid"? Maybe it is Detroit that has their priorities backwards. Back when I visited Detroit in 1984 it was a sh****le. It was still a sh****le when I visited again in 1998. Has it changed much since then?

    Have you not heard of these - Debra Lafave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Mary Kay Letourneau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and so many more The Dishonor Roll - Women Arrested for Indecent Behavior With Kids.

    Again I'll have to ask for a source. At what age should there be a cut off? Or are you suggesting it is ok for girls under the age of 18 engage in porn?

    Are you FUCKING serious? A youtube political parodist? First off, no he does not explain it better than you. Second, he is a moron. Please tell me you do not hold him as a credible authoritative figure on social or public issues/policies?


    Normally I do not get into these kind of online debates and I don't mean to come off as harsh. But based on your couple of posts on this topic I think you might want to take a step back and rethink you position or at the least better educate yourself on the topic you are discussing.
     
  19. clip11

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    Not too long ago, it was normal for 14, 15 and 16 y/o girls to be married, and most times to guys 5+ years older...thats a historical fact. I'll leave it up to you to research, but check the history of AOC laws, they go back to 19th century feminism.

    And a little internet research will also give you the true meaning of the word pedophile. In most states AOC is 16, not 18. And a few women being arrested doesnt prove anything compared th the thousands of men arrested for the same thing.
     
  20. orangello

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    Does getting thrown out of one of their casinos count as fighting them?
    ;) j/k

    I think they tried sending kids against the mooslim scurge back in the Middle Ages; reports of FAIL abound. I would only recommend this if the kids were devout Mexicant Catholics living in the US illegally.