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Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by nate913ks, Jan 10, 2012.
Is there a website were you can check to make sure a gun is not stolen.
That would be cool, to have something like a gunfax, but that would mean some kind of gun registration which is an infringement on our rights. But for now the standard operating procedure is to check with your local law enforcement agency.
Nate- there have been a few sites set up where people could post if they had a gun stolen, but they were REAL spotty. Less than 1/1000th of 1 percent of stolen guns made it to their lists.
The only one that really works is the NCIC- which YOU cannot access- it is limited to law enforcement. Sorry, bra.
FFL's are the only ones that can run stolen gun checks without fear of reprisal. I can do it, but in any case they require a location of the suspect firearm up front so they can come pick it up if it turns out to be stolen.
If you have any reason to believe a gun is stolen, don't buy it.
There is no magical list of all the guns in the US.
there are a myriad of incomplete lists and failures of stolen firearm websites.
The saddest part is, a large part of gun owners aren't even responsible enough to record make/model/serial number for personal records.
I would buy a "possibly suspected" stolen gun if it checks out. It's not my fault if an irresponsible gun owner doesn't record his serials. I'd check with local LEA, but if it checks out, it's something I want, and I can get it for a "steal", I'd take it.
That being said, if the deal is too good to be true, I'll try to record the seller's info and keep in on hand, just in case something comes up, like it being suspected of use in a murder or robbery or something.
I try to do the right thing, but sometimes the right thing is so hard to define, I'll just do the best I can and not violate my own morals.
Thank you guys for the answers.
FFL's can check for stolen? Huh? LE is the only ones with NCIC access.
Yeah. I call Portland PD and tell them I want to run a check. Difference between me an the guy next door is if the gun is stolen, I'm far less likely to get popped with a possession charge.
In one case many years ago I visited a guys house to look at a rifle he was selling. I asked if I could check the # and told him if it came up stolen that I would give LE his name, address and phone number. He said no problem, so I wrote the numbers down and checked them through a LEO I know and it came up clean.
My LEO buddy said there was no problem to look up numbers but if they came up stolen I would have to relinquish it (I have no problem doing that). I could plausibly say that I found it in the canyon off the road by my house because people are always throwing stuff off the road there (once found a body down there and another time a guy hanged himself). That is if I didn't want to give up the guy who was selling it (but I can't think of any reason why I wouldn't do that).
One of my neighbors bought an M1 carbine at a garage sale years ago (long story) and wanted to know if it was stolen recently so I checked it out through my LEO buddy. It came up clean. I probably would have used the canyon explanation if it had come up stolen. That is if my buddy asked (which he probably wouldn't).
For many of the reasons cited above I buy from a reputable dealer, too old to worry about "good deals" and probably should have been that way all my life. When I sell a firearm or make a trade as the case may be, I also do it with a reputable dealer and have a record of the transaction that goes into the briefcase full of such documents.....the thought of going to prison for something that I failed to do IAW administrative, college educated, commie bent, officials scares the hell out of me. Anyone thinks they know all the laws pertaining to firearms in the US must be a genius or have a crystal ball that works.