Wasp Spray

Discussion in 'Other Weapons' started by Jagermeister, Aug 26, 2013.

  1. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    My mother just sent this to me. I never knew this could be a viable less then lethal......

    If you don't have a gun, and even if you do, here's a way to wreck someone's evil plans for you. Did you know this? I didn't. I never really thought of it before. I guess I can get rid of the baseball bat.

    Wasp Spray -- A friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area was concerned about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were counting the collection. She asked the local police department about using pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a can of wasp spray instead.

    The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot more accurate, while with the pepper spray, they have to get too close to you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker until they get to the hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of pepper spray would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection. Thought this was interesting and might be of use.

    On the heels of a break in and beating that left an elderly woman in Toledo dead, self defense experts have a tip that could save your life.

    Val Glinka teaches self-defense to students at Sylvania Southview High School . For decades, he's suggested putting a can of wasp and hornet spray near your door or bed.

    Glinka says, "This is better than anything I can teach them."

    Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace or pepper spray. The cans typically shoot 20 feet; so if someone tries to break into your home, Glinka says "spray the culprit in the eyes". It's a tip he's given to students for decades.

    It's also one he wants everyone to hear If you're looking for protection, Glinka says look to the spray. "That's going to give you a chance to call the police; maybe get out." Maybe even save a life.

    Please share this with all the people who are precious to your life.

    Did you also know that wasp spray will kill a snake? And a mouse! It will! Good to know, huh? It will also kill a wasp!!!
    And best of all, immobilize a human.
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    I've suggested this alternative many times on this forum.
     

  3. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    Cool. I guess I am still fairly new.
     
  4. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    I'm sure you're not the only that missed it.
    It's a great option to know about especially if you're in an area that requires a license for pepper spray.
    Has better reach too.
     
  5. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    with it's range, i can see it being very effective. i have gotten wasp spray in my eyes when the wind changed directions. it's not pleasant and it was only a very small amount. i can only imagine full on assault with this stuff!:eek:
     
  6. CaseyChadwell

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    Great tip!!! I will be sharing this with everyone I know. Thank you!
     
  7. AR10

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    I would call your local district attorneys office and get their thoughts on using an insecticide on humans as a form of defence against an attacker.

    My feelings, spraying hornet juice on another human could easily get someone three hots and a cot.

    Using a deadly poison in a way, not consistent with product labeling is most likely a felony if used against people. Little doubt in my mind.

    Stick with sprays made to deter attacks from people. Use it in accordance with product labeling and all local and regional, federal laws.
     
  8. Doc3402

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    Wasp spray is an organo-phosphate poison known to be neuro-toxic in humans. It is not a non-lethal self defense alternative. Less lethal than a firearm? Yes, but not non-lethal. If you use it in an enclosed area you need to cover your mouth and nose and get out immediately. Decontamination should occur as soon as possible as this can be absorbed through the skin. If you notice excessive salivation, watering eyes, if your urine output increases, if you develop abdominal pain or cramping, diarrhea, or vomiting, get thee to an ER RFN! Atropine Sulfate is antidotal, but it takes massive quantities, usually more than is found on the typical rescue truck.
     
  9. AR10

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    Careful, when folks agree with me, I wonder if I am dreaming? Lol
     
  10. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    Did you guys read the article? It is used as self defense for robberies. If someone has a gun or knife, I rather be judged then dead. This is a good alternative in gun free zones. This was recommended by local law enforcement. You are absolutely right on checking with local laws in regards to self defense. I always do when traveling abroad/TDY.
     
  11. Doc3402

    Doc3402 New Member

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    Yes, I did read the article, but remember, you are in the same room with the spray. Sure, it does shoot a good portion of it's output in a thin stream, but there are two things to consider. That thin stream has a mist surrounding it, and the stream is not going to hit your attacker and stick. You are exposing yourself to the same poison you are using on your attacker. Get out, do it now, and decontaminate!

    Other than that, I am fairly confident that self defense laws would apply here in Florida.
     
  12. Doc3402

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    I'm really sorry, but last night was the night, so I'm really agreeable this morning. <grin>
     
  13. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I see a couple of problems with the wasp spray for defense. First of all, the only spray I have seen comes in quart cans; not something easy to carry around. Secondly, it is a federal crime to use pesticides outside of their labeled instructions. It is probably a violation of international laws as well......chemical warfare?

    When the subject of the spray recovers he is going to sue the pants off of you and win. He will end up the victim and you the perp.

    If you are going to break Federal laws for self protection, for heaven's sake, use a gun. With proper use of the gun, at least he won't sue you.
     
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  14. Jagermeister

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    Please refer to my earlier post:

    "It is used as self defense for robberies. If someone has a gun or knife, I rather be judged then dead. This is a good alternative in GUN FREE ZONES. This was recommended by local law enforcement. You are absolutely right on checking with local laws in regards to self defense. I always do when traveling abroad/TDY."

    How are you going to use a gun in a gun free zone? That will get you arrested.

    No one was recommending to carry it around. Some people who work in dangerous areas keep this on a desk if in gun free zones. It sprays much further then pepper spray. Also, as stated earlier, check with local law. Must be a good alternative when law enforcement/Sheriff's office is recommending it for self defense.
     
  15. Mouser

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    This is great information...not that anyone would carry a can of wasp spray...but I have cans of the stuff in my home and at work. Given that violence is unpredictable and random, the likelihood of a person being caught off guard is high so this kind of information is useful to anyone interested in another means of self-defense.
     
  16. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yes, I understood and understand your post. My point is this; if you are going to break the law to defend yourself, do it with the most efficient weapon available. Your cell will not be softer because you used an illegal chemical rather than an illegal gun. Never bring wasp spray to a gun battle.
     
  17. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    Sorry my friend, I feel we will be going in circles on this issue.:D:eek:
     
  18. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Of course, if you life was in imminent danger you use what ever is at hand to defend yourself. That is entirely different from intentionally arming yourself with a particular weapon, which I believe was the intent of the OP.

    I realize that my argument may have been a bit subtle for some here, but I believe you knew what I meant.
     
  19. Doc3402

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    I understood what you meant, but I got the impression you might have missed the reason behind the wasp spray. The wasp spray was a benign looking substitute that could be kept in plain sight. For those times when nothing else is available or appropriate at your workplace, it's not a bad alternative.

    As a side note, I armed myself with two less than ideal self defense weapons when I was still working. Florida law kept me from carrying what I was qualified to carry, so I carried what I could get away with. Both of these weapons were in plain sight on my person at all times, and neither one of them would even draw a second glance.
     
  20. nitestalker

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    Most manufactures of this product issue a warning on the label. Not to be used as self defense against humans. The EPA warnings are very clear do not use for self defense. The largest buyer of this product is the U.S. Border Patrol. They have strict warnings to never use this for self defense. The point here is you will likely end up with a civil law suite risking every thing you own. Just shoot them dead crooks can not testify in court.;)