Wanting to buy an AR platformed Hunting Rifle

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by BigGameNAmmo, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. BigGameNAmmo

    BigGameNAmmo New Member

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    I've been doing my research on different AR platformed hunting rifles. I am custom to a 7mm Rem mag, 270 Win, and even have a 7mm-08. So basically just wondering if anyone would recommend a caliber with enough knock down power to take down big game (deer, elk, eventually antelope) and flat shooting enough to reach out to 5-600yrds without sacrificing knock down power. Am I expecting too much in the AR line of hunting rifles? Rock River Arms and even La Rue have appealed to me most, but before I spend 2-4k on one I just would like some other advice/opinions. Are there cheaper accurate large caliber ARs out there that I should look at?
     
  2. fsted2a

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    Cheaper, or accurate? Which one? My suggestion is an AR 10 variant. Personnaly, I would go with Armalite.
     

  3. ineverFTF

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    I concur, AR-10 in 308 is your best bet. Armalite, rock river, colt might even have one, put good optics on any one of these and you're good to go.
     
  4. treehugger49

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    I think any caliber based on the AR-15 platform will not perform adequately on heavier game like elk, particularly at the longer distances you anticipate encountering.

    As fsted2a said, you need to evaluate the caliber choices on the AR-10 platform.
     
  5. ineverFTF

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    Although if you are hunting elk with a 308 make sure you have a very hot load if you're gun can handle it. Heavy bullet with slow expansion to let it get deep into the thicker skinned elk before it expands. I wouldn't recommend any shot over 250 for elk with a 308 and in any situation your shot must be perfect.
     
  6. ineverFTF

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    The 458. Socom would be ok for elk but only for 100-150 yards before it loses to much energy. In that case you are also spending alot on decent ammo, even if you reload.

    I know it wasnt your original want/need, but have you considered anything in 7.62x54? You can buy cheap bulk ammo for fun, and reload or buy the good stuff for hunting, and it will easily take an elk at 500 yards granted you can make the shot.
     
  7. jjfuller1

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    there is a 7mm mag upper reciever for the AR platform. this is the way i would go especially if you are already used to this caliber. im not positive, but i believe it was RRA that makes it too. its going to probly be 1k just for the upper so for a whole rifle i would say at least 1500 -1600
     
  8. AgentTikki

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    There's always an AR in 338 lapua or 300 win mag.......
     
  9. BigGameNAmmo

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    @Jjfuller That would be ideal, I will definitely be looking into going that route.
    @AgentTikki I like the 338 Lapua but all I've found have been expensive suggestions? And where have you seen a 300 chambered AR? I have not seen that.
     
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  11. fsted2a

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    Or you could just go with the M107 Barrett :D . Sericously, the 308 should take care of all of your hunting needs.
     
  12. jeepejeep

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    I would suggest the 450 Bushmaster out to 300 yards or so. It's an amazingly accurate round and will kill anything that walks with the proper bullet. 5-600 yards is extremely far for any rifle. Have you actually practiced shooting that far? It's one thing to shoot targets at that range but shooting at an animal that far away without being sure of a mortal hit is irresponsible. There are guys who can do it but they are few and far between. I don't think any rifle in an AR platform is appropriate including the 308. It may be accurate enough but I don't think it has the power for elk at 600 yards.
     
  13. BigGameNAmmo

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    @jeep. I was introduced to long range shooting/hunting at a young age. I have harvested a mule deer at just shy of 600yds, haven't taken any shots at an animal any further and really nothing within 150 of that. I am confident in my marksmanship but agree that no shot should be taken on an animal unless you are sure of a clean ethical kill at 50 yds or 1000yds. My interest in the AR is mainly for hunting and I would want to be able to reach out if needed, but target shooting is a hobby of mine I do often. So of course that is where I would push the limits before I'd ever consider taking a shot at an animal. I had the same concern about the AR platform being able to live up to my expectations or wants. That being said I would still be interested in an AR regardless of its abilities to take a long range kill shot on big game. Just getting opinions and trying to see my options in larger caliber platforms with big game hunting in mind, the .223 or 5.56 isn't near where I would be wanting, and really not a big fan of the .308 for no particular reason just not a caliber I have interest in.
     
  14. jeepejeep

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    Glad to hear you are not one of those "I read about shooting game at 600 yards so I can do it too" kind of guys. They are unfortunately out there.
    I love the 450 Bushmaster cartridge. There are guys doing amazing things with it and it's the most accurate cartridge I've ever shot. It's mundane for me (an average shot) to shoot ragged one hole targets at 100 yards without any problem at all. As for power, there's a few Alaskans who have dumped big brown bears with one shot with the 450. Go to http://www.450bushmaster.net for tons of info on it. The father of the "Thumper" posts there regularly under the name "Wildcatter".
    Good luck with your search.
     
  15. fsted2a

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    Hell, in my condition I am lucky to get 150 yards (or is it feet?) for a shot. Seriously, a large pistol caliber AR should do the trick. A few in my neck of the woods use a .40 S&W round. I was just trying to get the OP not to use the .223. Not good for us if Bambi wanders off and dies of gangren after you shoot him. A 308 is sufficient in my range.
     
  16. BigGameNAmmo

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    @jeep Yes unfortunately, there are people who believe that since they read something or saw a video on you tube that, they can make those shots "Same Day Snipers" is the name we've adopted for such people. I am no expert and don't claim to be on long range shooting but Ive fired 1000's if not 10,000's of rounds in various conditions, angles, cold bore, hot bore, wind, etc I need to stop, ha obviously I feel strongly on the subject or subject of all around irresponsible hunters. I'm all for people getting into long range shooting, but hunting is something that comes after practice and practice, not after you read an article or see a video clip.
     
  17. AgentTikki

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    Nemo makes a .300 win mag Ar. It is not inexpensive by any means.
    Then there's the equally affordable Noreen Bad News that can be ordered in 300 win mag.

    Actually both can be had in 300 win mag or 338 lapua.

    Mind you, I'm not recommending either just putting it out there fyi.


    If going for long range shooting Id look into 6.5 grendel if you haven't heard of it. The Ar 10/308 platform is great for bigger cartridges but is a more expensive platform.
     
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