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I am fairly new to firearms and need some help.

I purchased a Walthers p22 last week and have put about 300 rounds (winchester wildcat 22) thru it so far. It seems that when I use one of the two factory supplied magazines the weapon jams and misfires. I have had to pry several unspent rounds out of the barrel and had many (approx 25) instances where the following round has not loaded properly.

Could this be caused by the mag? Should I contact S&W/Walthers for repair? What would cause this.

I am concerned as this is the firearm that I purchased to teach my son, but do not want him near this until these problems are solved.

Any guidance that you can offer would be appreciated.
 

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I'll say first off, I'm new to shooting myself, but I'll give my input anyhow

a) Is this happening with just one of the mags or with both? If it's just with one of them, I'd venture a guess that it's the magazine
b) Have you tried any other types of ammo? I've put 700 rounds of CCI Mini-Mag through my P22 with no issues
 

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Calvin, you may want to check with S&W/Walther directly. They recently issued a recall for their PPK/PPKS models and this very well may be part of the same internal parts problem.

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I have had a few problems with my P22, but nothing about misfeeds. I had to take the slide apart and fix the spring on the firing pin, and bend the disconnector back into place. The P22 uses less than sturdy materials for some of their parts. Unless you are adventurous and feel like risking a three hundered dollar piece of equipment to your own understanding, I would send it in to either Walther or a gunsmith.
 

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update- I took it back to the shop that I purchased and they recommended that I use the CCI Mini Mag HV. They said that the Winchester lead may be too soft at this point and that the P22 needed to be broken in. We took to their range and tried to duplicate the issue with the CCI and had no problems. I will buy a couple of hundred rounds and try to run these thru this weekend to see if that was the problem.

On a separate note the CCI did not seem as dirty as that Winchester. ANyone else had this experience?
 

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It seems to be a general census that the P22 likes CCI ammo. Mine like Federal bulk ammo just fine though. The only problems I've had with Federal is bad primers, about 1 in 100. You also need to do some serious breaking in.
 

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Bulk .22 ammo

It seems to be a general census that the P22 likes CCI ammo. Mine like Federal bulk ammo just fine though. The only problems I've had with Federal is bad primers, about 1 in 100. You also need to do some serious breaking in.
dn, I like you have had some fail to fire on bulk .22 ammo. I grew up in SW Fla., and a trick I learned down there where the heat can play havoc with any rimfire is this. Save all of those plastic 50+100 round boxes-when you buy in bulk,or bricks, place all these in saved boxes,store with bullet down. IMO the wax lube works it's way down into the powder/primer, and makes a small # of them inert. I've did this for years (30+) and have very-very few dead .22's!:D;)
 

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No-No to wax coated lead

Calvin, you'll find very few .22 auto pistols like the Win,Wildcat/Rem.Thunderbolt ammo. Esp. on a new gun. The wax coated lead bullet is just too prone to hang on any/all sharp edges in the action and chambers of a new gun. Do like the other guys say and use copper coated/plated rounds, at least for the break-in period of 5-700 rounds. By the way, Calvin, welcome to the forum+speak up:D:D
 

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dn, I like you have had some fail to fire on bulk .22 ammo. I grew up in SW Fla., and a trick I learned down there where the heat can play havoc with any rimfire is this. Save all of those plastic 50+100 round boxes-when you buy in bulk,or bricks, place all these in saved boxes,store with bullet down. IMO the wax lube works it's way down into the powder/primer, and makes a small # of them inert. I've did this for years (30+) and have very-very few dead .22's!:D;)
Never thought about that. But GENERALLY, when I open a new 500 or 550 round box of 22lr, doesn't seem to make a difference of which manufacturer, they are packed bullets down primers up. I don't know how they manage that with all the ammo floating free.

When I do have a misfire, I wait the 10 seconds before clearing, as suggested, and believe it or not some do fire a few seconds after the misfire. If they do not fire, I eject the round and throw it in a stream that runs behind the firing line. (The stream is really handy for filling up plastic containers destined to be targets:D)
 

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Throwing the misfired round into the creek seems like a good option, but what about when you are in an indoor range? You wait the 10 seconds, remove the round and then what?
 

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Throwing the misfired round into the creek seems like a good option, but what about when you are in an indoor range? You wait the 10 seconds, remove the round and then what?
Its a good thing my club doesn't have an indoor range.

What is the proper action to take with a bad primer at an indoor range? Never had to think about that before.
 

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This is why we have to use steel shot duck loads

Never thought about that. But GENERALLY, when I open a new 500 or 550 round box of 22lr, doesn't seem to make a difference of which manufacturer, they are packed bullets down primers up. I don't know how they manage that with all the ammo floating free.

When I do have a misfire, I wait the 10 seconds before clearing, as suggested, and believe it or not some do fire a few seconds after the misfire. If they do not fire, I eject the round and throw it in a stream that runs behind the firing line. (The stream is really handy for filling up plastic containers destined to be targets:D)
dn, I'm really not going to Jump Your Bones-BUT-throw the unfired round in a stream? I guess you NOW know why we duck hunters now have to use steel shot!:( 1 or 2 ducks out of 200 million of them ate one of dnthmn's unfired lead bullets, and suffered a case of lead poisoning:eek: I hope that the Feds. don't pick up on this, or they will be knocking at your door! NOW, I ask all out there--what do you do with an unfired-primer struck round? At an indoor or outdoor range?:confused: PS. As a recent LEO academy graduate you do know the laws against littering don't you?
 

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dn, I'm really not going to Jump Your Bones-BUT-throw the unfired round in a stream? I guess you NOW know why we duck hunters now have to use steel shot!:( 1 or 2 ducks out of 200 million of them ate one of dnthmn's unfired lead bullets, and suffered a case of lead poisoning:eek: I hope that the Feds. don't pick up on this, or they will be knocking at your door! NOW, I ask all out there--what do you do with an unfired-primer struck round? At an indoor or outdoor range?:confused: PS. As a recent LEO academy graduate you do know the laws against littering don't you?
Im sure my few 22lr rounds are a drop in the bucket compared to how much lead seeps into that stream when it rains. BTW, the stream flows into the Millers River which was used as dumpster back in the early 1900s by the Erving Paper Mill. Even with 15 years of rehabilitation, the river and bottom are still a redish brown with rust and the fish are still not safe to eat. At least I'm disposing of my misfired rounds safely.

I'd gladly use a different method if you suggest one.

P.S. Yes I know the laws about littering. I could sit at my club and write about 2000 tickets a day, one for each spent case left on the ground. But thats the kind of thing that turns a PO into a burnout.
 

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Your a good sport dn!!

:mad:Hay, dn-I'm just messing with ya! I actually believe from reading your post, and at your young age, you'll make a FINE LEO!!:D The industrial pollution really sucks doesn't it?:mad:
 

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Hay, dn-I'm just messing with ya! I actually believe from reading your post, and at your young age, you'll make a FINE LEO!!:D The industrial pollution really sucks doesn't it?:mad:
Thank you for your confidence in me becoming a LEO:). If only departments in MA were hiring instead of laying off the rookies and asking the senior officers to retire earlier than they want. The economy needs to turn around before I get hired.

Stupid Massachusetts... Devil Patrick decided to cut things we don't need, like police officers, fire fighters, and teachers to name a few. Its great because those state employees are a complete waste of money that could be going to pay off our debt from "the big dig" (which won't be paid off untill 2034):rolleyes:. Consider that my rant for today.

Yes, I hate industrial pollution. Its sad that the river I mentioned is so polluted, because it is very beautiful and has some really nice fishing.
 

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I shoot at an indoor range and they have a hot box for mis fire rounds. The 10 seconds is a good rule of thumb for any round that doesn't go boom when it should. Gives you time to review your firearm and pass on a delay primer fire.
 
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