Walther P1/P38

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Quentin, Aug 28, 2011.

  1. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    I bought a used P1 today at Cabelas, they sold 30 or so today for $350 a piece during their doorbuster sale. These were German military and police turn ins and came with two magazines. A few came with leather holsters for an extra $10 but I was #10 in line and those were gone by then. I've always wanted a P38 and the P1 is identical to post WWII P38s, which all have aluminum frames. Other than very few exceptions the WWII P38s are the only steel frame models.

    Seems ok so far but I'm a newb with the P38. Everything seems to work and my initial and later inspections haven't turned up any glaring problems. I hope to shoot it next week. It's a clunky thing but I really like it so far!

    No pictures yet but it's no beauty though in good mechanical condition. It's dated 10/76 and does not have the reinforcing hex pin of later production. Will try to get some pictures posted soon but have company in town so it's hard to find time.
     
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  2. Quentin

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    Finally here are pictures of the new to me P1:

    Walther P1 right
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    Walther P1 left
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  3. VitSports6

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    Nice! I have been considering pulling the trigger on one as my first C&R03 purchase through AIMSurplus P1
    I look forward to your thoughts after shooting.
    Best of luck
     
  4. Quentin

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    AIM has a good price too, VS6. I guess our prices roughly average out since I got two mags. I didn't get a manual but did find a PDF online.

    If you get one I think you'll enjoy it. Mine has cosmetic flaws/scratches/wear but hardly has been shot. Mechanically it looks new.
     
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    I'm finding out more information on this P1. The strengthened version slide is dated 10/76 and marked with the last three numbers of the frame's serial number which at first made me think they were a matched set but the frame does not have a steel hex pin which I understand a frame from 1976 should have. The barrel definitely is from a different pistol as it has the last three of a different serial number. This P1 was reworked 10/1977 which seemed strange to me for a frame of 10/1976 until I realized the frame must be older than the slide. I'm trying to track down the date of the frame now using the serial number. It may be from 1968. During the rework the slide must have been stamped to "match" the frame.
     
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    Well I still haven't got out to the range with the P1. Been so busy plus I found an issue with the extractor and have been working on it before taking it out to the range.

    But there has been a new development. :eek: I met a friend at the LGS and they had a broken P38 (post WWII) for $250. Looking it over, the major components looked good but the safety didn't function right and you could get a full auto conditon since the hammer would drop (follow the slide on recoil) and the firing pin wasn't blocked. Otherwise a nice example from Feb 1962 so I bought it.

    Got it home and found that the P38 slide and safety worked properly on my P1 frame so the problem was in the frame and I could see it was the sear. It's a $20 part so I think I'll just get an $89 parts kit from CDNN or CTD to have spares for both guns (may need an extractor for the first one anyway). I've been wanting to get a couple more magazines anyway so can bundle it all up in one order.

    No pictures of the new P38, it looks pretty much the same as the first one posted above. No real difference in them except the one I just got has the thin slide and it says P38 instead of P1. :p
     
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    Thanks pmanton, I am a member there.

    Salome, Arizona - wow, many, many times during the 70s I drove through there and even stayed there on occasion. Bet it's changed a lot!
     
  9. Quentin

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    I took some pictures of the new P38 so will stick them in the thread if anyone's interested. I'm really getting to like these fine old guns.

    Walther P38 right
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    Walther P38 left
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    P38/P1 Magazines
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  10. pmanton

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    I also drove through here on the way to Grand Canyon in the 70's. Stayed at the flea bag motel in town. Never for the life of me did I think I'd be living here.

    We got a deal on a runway home at Indian Hills Airpark. So here we are. I like being able to drive 5 minutes and shoot anything from .22 to 30-06. I also like being able to walk 20 feet to my own hangar .

    Cheers:

    Paul
     
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    Guess there ARE advantages to living out in the sticks, Paul!

    And I think I stayed in that same fleabag motel plus got drunk in the bar across the parking lot! Not much else to do in town back then and we were stuck there a few days on a truck weighing detail on US 60.

    Hey we always pronounced it SAL-lom in the seventies but I guess it really is Sal-o-may like the belly dancer or Salome Jens?
     
  12. pmanton

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    It's still pronounced SAL om :eek:
    As for getting drunk across the street Kinda tough right now.:eek:


    It was completely gutted. The adobe walls are for the most part standing so it's being rebuilt.

    Cheers:

    Paul
     

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    Oh man what a shame! :eek: Our crew put down a lot of beers and burgers in that place. One guy said he had 32 beers in one day. Don't know if that's possible but he sure could put them down!

    Hate to say it but this reminds me of Two Guns, AZ catching fire. Afterward they renamed it No Guns. True story!
     
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    My wife bought me a West German Police trade in P38 several years ago as a Christmas present, and it is in roughly the same shape as yours. It is a fun gun to shoot, and you don't have to feel guilty about damaging an heirloom if it gets scratched. I hope you enjoy your new guns.
     
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    By the way. Here's my own P-38

    Paul
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    I picked up two P-1s from AIM awhile back. Nice guns. Seem to handle any ammo I feed them. One is now my car gun and the other in my bug-out bag.
     
  17. Quentin

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    Nice to see a few guys have P1/P38s here, thanks for the pictures. Hey Paul, yours is the real deal! And the holster too. Nice!