WalMart rifles

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by blucoondawg, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    Anyone ever bought a rifle from Walmart and had it just seem not quite right? A buddy of mine who moved north from Northern Illinois bought a Remington 3006 from Walmart awhile back because he wanted to start deer hunting up here, he brought the gun to work and after work we went out back of the shop and proceeded to sight in the open sights, it was a model 7400, not sure of the designations for the semis but I would call it an ADL, synthetic with the rough matte finish like an 870 express, well as we were workin on dialing in in I noticed something just didn't look right, we had to move the rear sight all the way over to the left as far as we could to make it hit, the bead was centered and it wasn't operator error because both of us as well as my boss shot it with the same results. If you stood the gun in a vice then stood back and looked at it from the top it looked really stupid, you looked down the center of the gun and everything looked good, except that rear sight was way left. Something wasn't right.
     
  2. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    I think Walmart guns are different from regular guns. IIRC they use plastic parts, and just don't work as well as the same model of gun that was bought from a gun shop would. In other words, to keep the guns cheap for Walmart, they have to be made cheap. :(
    Someone else who has more experience with Walmart guns should be along shortly.
     

  3. Marlinman

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    They are the same guns.....7400 was made to be a scoped rifle mainly. No one knows why they put the iron sights on them stupid things. Put a scope on it and remove irons and they look right most of the time.

    God didnt make all men equal colonel Sam Colt did
     
  4. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    That's what I was thinking too, but its hard to imagine that companies who have staked their reputation on building quality firearms would lower the quality and still feel comfortable putting their name on that product. I can maybe see it with housewares or electronics or the like but firearm and tool manufacturers really irk me when they are willing to build inferior stuff to meat the price of these companies
     
  5. blucoondawg

    blucoondawg New Member

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    whether or not it takes a scope I would think if you are going to put irons on it they should be in the right spot wouldn't you? I shoot a 7600 and so do many in my hunting party and ours aren't like that. I don't really consider the semis and pumps scope guns, you can if you want but around here they are usually used in the woods, regardless the sights should be right if they are gonna put them on there IMO
     
  6. c3shooter

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    I would humbly called your attention to the fact that for YEARS, companies such as Winchester, Marlin, Remington, Savage, Hi Standard, Mossberg, etc have made firearms of a second quality for sale thru mass merchandising. Those guns had same basic design, but beech stocks instead of walnut, plainer finishes, brushed instead of hi polish, etc.

    I am, of course, referring to STORE brands, such as J.C. Higgins, Ted Williams, Westernfield, Revelation, etc. Even Spiegel and J C Penney once had their own guns.
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    Blue i made the mistake several years ago of buying a Remington M770 from WalMart. huge mistake! bought it, thinking it was a cheaper version of the M700. Wrong! didn't keep it very long and sold it for less than i paid for it and was glad, just because i wanted the POS gone. i will never own one again. i may buy some ammo and miscellaneous supplies at WalMart, but i will gladly spend a little more and buy my guns at my LGS instead.
     
  8. Marlinman

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    7400 has a bad habit of the barrel twistin and they are SUPPOSED to be scoped according to the remington guy i have talked to. He said they are supposed to not have the irons on em but the deaign jackasses put em on there to make them more money-more for said jackasses. Now they are just a part of the plans and it costs ALOT for them to have thwm plans redrawn and to retrain the people makin the barrels.

    God didnt make all men equal colonel Sam Colt did
     
  9. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Yes they all do have that bad habit c3. Thats why if you special order a rifle from say walmarts counter book the rifle will cost more than the ones in the cabinet. They are made alot better too.

    God didnt make all men equal colonel Sam Colt did
     
  10. gunguy1997

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    ok this is just my experience but i wouldn't buy from wal mart again ever. i was told(after my dad bought a rifle) that wal mart buys guns that don't pass inspection from the factory. and after this experience i believe it. we bought a rifle and at first it locked up all the time sometimes you couldn't work the bolt sometimes it wouldn't chamber a round. ect. but we spent an extra 200$ fixing it and its the best gun ive ever shot to this day groups great smooth and just a pleasure to shoot but it would have been cheaper to just buy it from a dealer in the long run.
     
  11. theropinfool

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    What does "Ymmv" mean dude?

    +10 on the model 60. I got mine at Walmart back in 2006. Never had one problem. Never even jammed. Love that little gun. When I bought it the "associate" told me he had one. Said if I stick with quality ammo it will never have a problem. I stick with federal premium or cci anyway, but a nice gun and great service.

    But I would recommend doing your research before any purchase. It's not THEIR fault if YOU buy a crappy gun.
     
  12. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    YMMV, Your Mileage May Vary
     
  13. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    So the "design Jackasses" make money from increased costs? That just does not make any sense at all. The "design jackasses" work for Remington. They get paid to design. They do not get royalties or bonuses for increasing the complexity of the products. Quite the contrary. They are paid to streamline the production and cut costs.

    Plans do not have to be "redrawn" to omit the irons. Quite the contrary, as many Remington rifles have barrels drilled, tapped and plugged holes for the omitted front sights. This argument has no merit IMHO.

    Firearms being an inherently dangerous product, this is laughable. Why would any company with a legal department allow this to happen? They would not, period. Blemished product sure but nothing beyond that.

    Apparently no one understands Walmart's marketing scheme. They negotiate low prices through high volume, but also get the manufacturers to do the warehousing for them. Walmart's "warehouses" are actually just distribution hubs. They run low on toilet paper in central Ohio and the paper company quickly ships "X" amount to that distributuon center. The paper company, as a part of the contract, has a small window to make their delivery.

    Remington agrees to sell 7400's in a limited number of calibers to Walmart at a set price and deliver them to a store or distribution center w/in "X" days. They do not have time to cull out the "bad" ones to go to Walmart. They simply ship what is ordered. If they ship a less than perfect product it is because Reminton made a POS. You have just as much of a chance getting a POS 7400 Express at Dicks, BPS, Gander Mtn or your LGS.

    I would contact Remington about the sight issue. They should make it good. I would not accept "it was made to be scoped" as an answer. I paid for sights, I expect them to be usable.
     
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  14. gunguy1997

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    i did not say that's what happens just that's what i was told and that i believed it and still do.
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    actually Robo is exactly correct about their marketing strategy. i worked in fleet maintenance for many years at a distribution facility for WalMart. many of the higher cost items, WalMart doesn't own them until they actually sell. a lot of fast moving lower cost products are shipped directly from the manufacteror straight to the stores, bleach, soft drinks, T/P, diapers, ect. WalMart has used this strategy for many years, has also used the strategy of buying in larger bulk quantities than other retailers, gain an edge when selling. also another strategy they use is reverse price offset, selling one item cheaper than anyone else, then marking up other items to help with the offset of lost income on the one item to be able to sell the one item at way lower cost than their competitors. you are just as likely to have the same results with any firearm bought at any chain retailer as you would buying at WalMart, because they use some of the same type of marketing as WalMart, just on a smaller scale. part of the reason i won't buy a firearm from WalMart or any other big chain retailer.
     
  16. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Believe what you will. A Vietnam vet neighbor of mine is convinced the Viet Cong could shoot our ammo through their rifles even though that is quite impossible. Urban legends are just that.
     
  17. Tackleberry1

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    UNNGH!

    Another Wal Mart thread? Dudes, listen up. NO self respecting gun owner should be buying guns from ANY big box retailer! PERIOD!

    Anyone remember when K Mart was the countries #1 gun dealer?

    How about Sears, Wards, Ect, Ect...

    The purchasing power of companies like Wall Mart gives them volume discounts that your LGS could never get. Keep chasing your best deal to save 10% on a gun and sooner or later you'll drive the independent dealers out of business.

    Good luck getting Mr. Pimple at the Wal Mart gun counter to receive and transfer that handgun you bought online.:rolleyes:

    Hope ya all really like that 10 gun selection at Wal Mart. Probably be all you get to choose from when your LGS goes under!

    I don't know how to say this any clearer. Your giving your money "for guns" to people who DON'T NEED IT to stay in business. ALL big box companies that rely on selling food, diapers, an TV's are but 1 mass shooting away from dropping out of the gun trade.

    Your lining the devils pocket for what, "a couple more boxes of ammo"?

    Support your LGS, he's the only one who actually needs your business and he's the only one who CAN'T buckle to political pressure and simply sell something else.

    Tack

    And No, I'm not a dealer. I work in construction management and derive no income from our sport.
     
  18. SSGSF

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    I have bought two guns from Walmart. a winchester 1300 shot gun . The second was a Winchester m 70 270 with a scope. After siting it in at the range and taking it out to the deer lease I notice the scope rings were lose. So I had to resite it in I also reworked the the trigger to about 2-3 lbs.
     
  19. aprilvee

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    Buying a gun at Walmart is like having Subway cater your kid's bah mitzvah
     
  20. Yunus

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    I own a Howa bought from Walmart and it's well under 1" moa closer to .5" moa in .223 with cheap walmart ammo. Walmart was cheaper than anyone else for the same thing. Maybe they do sell inferior products like the Remington 770 but that is sold elsewhere as well.

    I bought from them before and I would buy from them again, in fact the 10/22 they sell for like $150 is looking pretty tempting.