W. German 8mm pistol???

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by Flameeater, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. Flameeater

    Flameeater New Member

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    Ok guys, I am new here and have a question I hope you can help me with. I have an 8mm pistol. On the side it says made in W.Germany. I dont know when it was made or really what it is. It is a black gun with brown grips. The grips has the bird and star circle on them. (nothing inside the circle). The closest thing I have found to it is this. It looks like a new version.

    8mm Blank Firing -Nickel Finish

    The barrel has been plugged, and the gun is not in the best of shape. Just trying to figure out what it is and if it is worth anything. I wish I had pics, but I dont. I will take some after I get off work tonight and post some later. Thanks in advance for all your help.
     
  2. jpattersonnh

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  3. Flameeater

    Flameeater New Member

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    Great find!!

    My gun is almost identical to the 2 very bottom pictures on this link. The only difference I can see is the hand-grips with the German bird and star circle on mine.

    The best I can see it looks like 2 pieces of metal in a cross-hair configuration presumably "threaded" into it. I am assuming this was done maybe to get the gun into the country.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    CAUTION ! In European nations where ownership of handguns is sharply limited, the 8mm BLANK pistol is rather popular. These have a plugged barrel to (a) permit semi-auto fire from a blank, and (b) see that a round of ball ammo is NEVER fired.

    Post a pic of YOUR gun, and all the funny little little squiggly lines called WORDS, and we may be able to identify. If it IS a blank gun, simply removing the bore obstruction will NOT permit you to safely fire ball ammo- gun will self disassemble with harm to you, innocent bystanders, etc.
     
  5. Flameeater

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    Yeah, I wouldnt even try to remove what is in it. And if I did I doubt it would be worth shooting at this point anyway. The rifling is ruined I am sure. Anyway i will post up some pics just as soon as I can take some.
     
  6. jpattersonnh

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    C3, I'd replace the barrel. Keep the original as a part of the guns history.
     
  7. c3shooter

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    Many of the blank only guns are not safe to fire ball ammo in EVEN with a real barrel. They may lack a locking mechanism entirely, frame/ slide zinc alloy. These were intended to NOT be convertible to fire ball ammo. Only 8mm pistol I know of that is NOT a blank pistol is 8mm Nambu.
     
  8. Flameeater

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    Hey guys,
    It is definitely a blank gun. Found out a bit about it when I took it to the local gun shop this morning.

    WALTHER

    This is what we found. Mine is definitely in rough shape, and needs to be fixed/ cleaned up. I don't know that anyone would be interested in such a thing. Where would you guys suggest I go about trying to sell it.
     
  9. Flameeater

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    This is mine. I am not sure what to do about trying to make it look better. Any suggestions?
     

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  10. c3shooter

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    To clean it up, try this- spray with a light oil (NOT WD 40, DAMMIT!) use a toothbrush to clean any serrations. Use coarse cloth (burlap, denim) and oil, rub until arm falls off, then change arms. DO NOT USE STEEL WOOL.

    Here in the land of the free, home of the brave, and I-own-more-real-guns-than- a-European-police-department, there is a VERY limited interest in blank firing guns. Some military reenactors use them due to limitations on carrying real guns.

    By now you saw the price listed on the link, and are rubbing your hands together, yelling "Hoo-BOY!" Don't. That is for a New-in-box with all the goodies. Value of yours at a WILD GUESS may be $50-$75. BTW, those were made by Umarex.
     
  11. Flameeater

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    Well your guess was the same as mine. I couldn't have expected much out of such a rough looking gun. I just dont really see a use in me keeping it, since I have a few real ones myself. I may see if I can post it to an auction site or something. Any idea how hard it would be to ship this thing to a potential buyer?
     
  12. c3shooter

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    Legally, that is not a firearm- it is not designed to fire a projectile, so does not have to go to a dealer. You can ship directly to an adult. US Mail does NOT permit blank pistols, but you can send by UPS Ground. UPS normally requires next day air for handguns, but, as I said, that is not a handgun. I would have buyer send me a copy of ID showing he is 18 or older.
     
  13. Flameeater

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    Thanks a bunch C3 :)
     
  14. cscpetillot

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    Hi, c3shooter is 100% right : CAUTION, CAUTION, CAUTION. It's a so called ALARM PISTOL !!! You can only fire blank or gas cartridges.
     
  15. Wenonah

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    The finest bronze wool (not steel wool) you can find and a very light touch will pull the rust right off without affecting the bluing. It won't do much for pitting but surface rust doesn't stand a chance.