Very interesting discussion on the Constitution

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by JTJ, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    This was a "sanitized" version. The professor kept it rstionasl.

    if you read the original version of his articles, he wants to set up a parlimentary government like Europe and the U.K., and do away with the SCOTUS, and the Senate.

    The guy is a smart, well spoken conniving socialist.
     

  2. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It was interesting seeing a liberal trying to defend the constitution when she was completely out gunned (as usual). Also the viewpoint that Obama is all for personal privacy (but only when it is his personal privacy). The proliferation of domestic surveillance under Obama is mind blowing. I also found it interesting that he claimed he was for the 1st and 2nd amendments and thought the NRA is correct. I found that a little hard to believe.
     
  3. Popeye77

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    "A bunch of dead people telling us what to do". You bet, it was written just for people like you. That is a fine example of liberal progressive thinking. Difficult to change?? You bet, it was designed that way.
     
  4. nitestalker

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    The Left is introducing a Bill to drop Presidential Term Limits. They are really planing a one party Socialist government. The American people broke and disarmed. The ruling party will be a Socialist Dictatorship.:(
     
  5. Popeye77

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    Yep the man who wants to be king, or Chavez,Putin. Either one take your pick
     
  6. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    None of this krap has a snowball's chance in hell of passing.

    Back in the 1930s, Half of the American people were sympathetic to communism. The Socialist Workers party was huge. (counting supporters as well as members)

    Tens of thousands of Americans paraded in the streets of the big North Eastern cities carrying sickle and hammer flags.

    Yet the socialist progressive FDR wasn't able to get 99 percent of his agenda to see the light of day.
     
  7. nitestalker

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    Locutus the American Nazi Socialist Party was very big before WWII. FDR was forced to accept more socialism then he wanted. FDR was afraid if he didn't accept communist Light the Reds would control America.
    The Roots of socailism and the far left Democratic movement was hatched by FDR. Had FDR not died in office he would have ended the American Republic as invisioned by our Founding Fathers.:(
     
  8. locutus

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    You're right about the NAZIs influence. Much of it was to counter the massive and growing communist influence
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    But progressivism actually goes back a ways from FDR.

    Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson were the fathers of the American
    "Progressive" movement.

    Barnes and Noble has a book called "Theodore and Woodrow." It details the founding of the progressive movement in the USA. Both men were great admirers of the British "Fabian Society," a utopian socislist movement.
     
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  9. JTJ

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    Wilson may well have caused the ultimate demise of our country when he created the Federal Reserve and the monetary system went into the hands of the private bankers.
     
  10. texaswoodworker

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    The greatest threat to the Constitution, and the country are the people themselves. Who keeps voting these people into office? Who keeps accepting new laws that are unconstitutional? Who lets the politicians create these laws? The people do. Of course, not all of us do, but apparently enough people to screw up the country do.
     
  11. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You're right. The people are the problem.

    I truly believe that's the reason the founders were so careful to write the constitution in such a way that it prevents the country from ever degenerating into a true democracy.

    The founders realized that true democracy is unrestrained mob rule. Like the open cesspool known as the E.U.:(:(
     
  12. johnr43

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    The Real Roots


    This may or may not be true - I cannot directly speak to its validity.

    What is occurring in the USA (and the world for that matter) is nothing, more- or less, a part of the cyclical nature of Mankind's recurrent history. The basic issue and ultimately cause is the inherently wicked nature of man's heart. Reading history displays the evidence. We humans don't have a sufficient lifespan to see it. We read history and we think we can "fix" man. we can't. Then, in the end we repeat history with simple "variations of a theme".

    Albeit, some movements of which are actually begun with so called "good intentions" -sadly of man's making. My father always told me, "Hell is paved with good intentions". At the end of the day, man's "good intentions" never are "good". At their heart they are continually wicked... King Solomon saw it and recorded for all to read. :)
     
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