Varmint Style 308's

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by AusLach, Jul 5, 2010.

  1. AusLach

    AusLach Active Member

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    I've been looking at a new rifle and had been thinking about a .204 but have changed my mind to something a bit larger as my .223's ballistics are pretty close to the 20 calibre's anyway.. I really like the look of the Savage VLP in .308, Savage Arms Firearms > 12 VLP DBM and also the CZ 550 Varmint Laminated Ceska zbrojovka a.s. - CZ 550 VARMINT - LAMINATED.

    The rifle will be primarily for pigs, goats and '5 foot rats' (hopefully zhuk will understand me ;)) from the back of a vehicle. I dry-fired the Savage at a shop the other day and really liked the trigger but it was a left handed model so I couldn't see how it came to the shoulder.

    I have not seen the CZ but I have a 17HMR Brno (which is the same company) and it is amazing so if it's anything like that I'll be extremely happy. The 550 has a single stage set trigger, and I haven't had any experience with one of these. Does anyone have any feedback on the value of this type of trigger?

    To be honest I'll probably be happy with either of these rifles as from what I have read previously they are both very accurate and in the future I'd be interested in maybe entering some target competitions and plus, who doesn't love great accuracy to pi$$ all over your mate's rifles?!

    Does anyone have either of these rifles or some info on any other options? Thanks heaps
     
  2. jpattersonnh

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    You may want to look at the Howa heavy barrel .308. I have had mine for quite a few years. Very accurate rifle w/ 120...168gr bullets.
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  3. M14sRock

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    Either the Savage or the 550 will do you just fine, as will the Howa.

    I have a Savage 112 in .223 that is a one hole shooter with certain loads. The set trigger on my CZ527 is pretty cool, though.

    Which one fits you better?
     
  4. willfully armed

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    i have the 550 varmint.

    only downside being it weighs 11 lbs.

    I have my trigger set to just under 1lb. Budsgunshop has the best prices Ive seen online, however i bought mine for a few hundred less.

    CZ makes outstanding guns, better than Savage.
     
  5. Yunus

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    The Howa is very heavy as well. It's the only downside I can think of.
     
  6. AusLach

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    I did look at the Howa but I already have a Weatherby Vanguard in .223 which is essentially the same (except for the heavy barrel) and I was looking for something a bit different, although if they still sold the Custom Supreme Varminter here I'd be very interested in that!

    I don't reload currently but am looking forward to getting into it, so Federal 150 grainers will be the primary food source for the gun a little while at least. What twist rate is optimum for this bullet weight?

    The weight of the rifle does not bother me as I wont be carrying it for any extended distances it will be used wholly for paper punching or shooting at feral game off the back of a ute at distances of 100-300 yards.

    Also does anyone have any experience with the Nikon Monarch scope line? I was thinking of a 5-20x44.
     
  7. jpattersonnh

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    My rifle has never stopped amazing me on the rounds it shoots well. We were at the range a few years ago, I had been shooting 165gr and took my 1st shot w/ 150gr Federal. Strait between a Rosie O'donnell dolls eyes at 100 yards! It has a 1:10 twist. The newer ones are 1:12.
     
  8. AusLach

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    How do you like it? I'm not worried about the weight, I won't be lugging it around very far. I've been quoted from a shop in Sydney $1165 AUD which is pretty reasonable so it looks like I'll be makng the trip down there in my next holidays. What scope do you have on your rifle? How's the accuracy?
     
  9. willfully armed

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    Leupold Vari-xII, 5/8 MOA @ 100 yards with factory ammo.

    Havent gone past 100, and havent started loading .308 yet. But I should be able to get it under 1/2 MOA with homerolled ammo.

    I like the detatchable mag, and mauser extractor.

    That price is $993 USD, about $450 over what I paid, but only $150-$200 over average US retail.
     
  10. jpattersonnh

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    There is allot to be said for the CZ rifles. I have a 527 varminter in .223. Incredible rifle!! I love the single set trigger. Both my Howa and CZ wear Sightron SII scopes. 6.5-20x42mmAO on the CZ and 4-12x42mmAO on the Howa. Most of my hunting buddies use Leupolds, they are real impressed that a scope that was $400.00 less has matched their VXIII's. That is a bunch of ammo! Both of the scopes are excellent in low light. I use the CZ to hunt Coyotes at night during the winter w/ a good moon.
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  11. Txhillbilly

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    Savage,CZ,Tikka all make some very accurate out of the box rifles. I have 3 heavy barreled Savage rifles, 25/06-308-300WM. I'm still breaking in the barrel on the 308,but all three of them are shooters,shooting sub-MOA at 100yrds with handloads.

    This is my 25/06,but the 308 is identical to it.They both have Choate Tactical stocks,Ken Farrell bases,Burris Signature Zee rings,and Sightron SIII 6-24x50 scopes.

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  12. AusLach

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    I'm not a big fan of the Tikka, I handled a heavy barrelled 25-06 in store (I think it was the Super Varmint) and the action felt very loose. So loose in fact, that it had me wondering that if I turned it upside-down and shook it, if I'd be able to cycle the action! And although I like the ruggedness of the synthetic stock on my Vanguard, I'd really prefer something a bit 'flashier' for want of a better word on this rifle, so I'm really after a laminated or walnut stock.

    The Ruger Varmint/Target model was another thought, but a mate of mine just ordered one in 22-250 so I want something different to that too.

    I understand that some of you might think that my motives aren't going to let me purchase the best suited rifle to me but this will only be my third rifle purchase and I'm just after something that fills my needs adequately but will also add a touch of glamour to my safe! Anyway, a nice, well-built rifle is going to last a lifetime and I anticipate that whatever I end up with will be with me for that time, so I'd like to make a good decision now that I'll be happy with in the future.

    Thanks for the replies though, it's nice to know that I'm thinking along the same lines as people vastly more experienced than me and that I'm at least on the right track!
     
  13. AusLach

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    Um maybe after seeing what happened to LegMcMoron this morning I'd better clarify my last post. I'm not the type to show off or who is all that worried about what other people think about what I wear, say or shoot for that matter. I'm lucky in that I have a group of friends who are legally allowed to go out hunting and target shooting with me, something that isn't really all that common down here in Australia, especially at our age.

    Yes we all like to lust over the gun 'porn' available to us and we are getting to the stage where some of us are able to acquire it. Although it is nice to have a nice looking rifle (and I'm sure pistols and autoloaders as well :D), the main thing that I, and most of my mates are concerned about is the accuracy and usability of said firearm. That's why I haven't gone out and bought the CZ straight away, because I want to know EVERYTHING about it, good and bad before purchase, not being limited to knowing that it looks better than any other rifle I have seen on the market (in my opinion only of coarse!).

    I know that everyone on here has been very hospitable towards me and I appreciate the respect shown because it's definitely mutual. I just wanted to clarify my motives for purchasing the rifle so that you don't confuse me with some of the d*ckheads that float around here from time to time.

    PS.. How do I become a supporting member so I can appease Lonyaeger and 'join' for real?! ;)
     
  14. 753X0

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    How about one these?

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    Or these.
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  15. AusLach

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    Oh my God I wish! Down here in Australia we're not permitted to own semi-automatics so although drool-worthy, I'd rather not think about these pics too much or I get depressed! Thanks for your thoughts but.
     
  16. 753X0

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    Auslach, I'm very sorry for showing the pics. I had no idea I rubbed salt into a wound.

    Apologies, 753X0
     
  17. AusLach

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    Haha that's ok. It does sting a bit though, especially seeing those awesome groups you are getting! One question, in a semi like that do you have to wait until the barrel cools before shooting again? When I'm shooting for groups I like to wait a couple of minutes between shots, even in a heavy barrel...
     
  18. 753X0

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    Hi Aushlach, no I didn't let the barrel cool any more then it took me to walk down and check the targets. Forgot the spotting scope again.:( :(