using a light for home defense?

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  1. icallshotgun88

    icallshotgun88 New Member

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    the other day, i had a friendly debate with someone at the range about whether or not it was a good idea to have a light on a HOME DEFENSE gun…

    he thought i was stupid for using a light because "it says 'look over here and shoot me'".

    heres what i think…

    [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRAEaDZN3bA[/ame]

    what do YOU think?
     
  2. hk45

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    I have a light on my home defense pistol. I have read the articles etc about the advantages and disadvantages of having a light and how it will give away your position. But I agree with the video you need to be able to know what your target is and you also have the option to not use the light but it's there if you want it. Something I have thought about is that some FBI agents in the article I was reading, and I don't know where it is or what magazine it was in, but they said if you use a light don't have it on the gun. Have it in you non shooting hand held at arms length to your side or as far as possible away from you that way when your attacker fires at the light your to the side and assuming he is a good shot only your arm is out there so to speak instead of your entire body. My light is actually on my gun but I could always quickly remove it and hold it to the side if I felt I needed to, or leave it on the gun and use the momentary flash option, or the locked on option or not use it at all but at least I would have options instead of not having a light and wishing I did. I also keep a flashlight by my bed as well that I could grab
     

  3. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I keep a low-level light burning in my house at the opposite end from my bedroom. An intruder would be back-lit while I would be in the dark. My HD gun is an 870 that lives by my bed, it has a light with a momentary contact switch mounted on the slide so that, if necessary, I can blink the bad guy to confirm my target.
     
  4. clr8ter

    clr8ter New Member

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    If you're worried the intruder will shoot at the light, stick small mirrors around everywhere.:D Also, want a light on a gun? Look this up; www.wickedlasers.com That should do the trick!
     
  5. Shoobee

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    I'll argue for the side in the debate that supports no light mounted to your pistol.

    Laser sight, sure no problem. Some people are half blind and need a laser sight to see where the bullet is going to go.

    Light -- no way. A light just gives your own position away. It only attracts lead.

    If you don't know how to shoot in the dark, then leave a light on in the far side of your residence for backlighting. Or leave the outside lights on at night, which is what you are supposed to do anyway in a high risk environment.

    I live alone, so anything or anyone moving in my residence is not supposed to be there. No girlfriends have a key. No family or friends living nearby. I do not need to "identify" anything moving in my apartment before I shoot it.

    If it's in the apartment and it's bigger than my cat, it gets shot on sight in the dark.
     
  6. Shoobee

    Shoobee New Member

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    Jeeze Holmes ... a 9 minute video ... who's going to watch a 9 minute video ???

    Can't you find a 1 min or 2 min video somewhere instead ???
     
  7. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    I use a light when I am coyote hunting. I just flick the light on when I hear something moving. Most of the time I bag the coyote before he can get away. Even Jerry Mickulek does not have the situational awareness or reflexes of a coyote. I feel pretty good about using a light to blind a goblin before I blast him with the maverick 88. After all I wouldn't want the last thing the bad guy sees to be a muzzle flash. The light is for the goblins own good.
     
  8. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    Girlfriends?....

    Geez man, we should worry about YOU getting shot....
     
  9. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    one of the most basic and important rules of gun safety. know your target.

    unless you know 100% what your target is, you have no business pulling the trigger.

    everyone's situation and environment are different. so different approaches to different situations are called for.
    single or married? children, and how many and how old?
    urban or rural area?
    light or heavy sleeper?
    interior lighting or darkness?
    handheld or gun mounted?

    a person needs to define what type or if any lighting is called for in their unique circumstances. there is no one size fits all answer, as everyone's needs are going to be different.

    but you had better be sure of what your target is before you pull the trigger, and how you go about that to make sure, is something everyone needs to take into consideration. there have been many cases where someone has shot the wrong person, thinking they were an intruder in their home.
     
  10. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    When I was 15, I broke into someones garage and stole some road flares...took them down the street and lit them off...yay...15 year old fun...

    I don't know if it's internet tough talk, or if there are a bunch of psychopaths on this forum, but I'm not prepared to kill a bored 15 year old child because I need to blast everything in the dark.
    If I thought life was that scary, I would lock myself in my bedroom and call the cops. I took a responsibility when I decided to arm myself for home protection, one of them being to identify my target before shooting it...even at a potential risk to me.
     
  11. rifleman1

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    I do not put lights on my hd guns for the simple fact that now I have to point my gun at everything including things that are not a threat like my children or my wife.
     
  12. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    You could make every bulb in your house the highest wattage possible and wire every single light in your house to the clapper....

    I would pay to see the look on a burglars face if that happened...
     
  13. Defiant_one

    Defiant_one New Member

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    I don't even use the gun

    My tactical light is enough to do the job

    This is what it looked like last time I used it

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    This is what the bad guy saw and felt

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    So I really wasn't too worried about giving away my position although every time I use it, my gun does this

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    :p:D;):rolleyes::eek:
     
  14. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Just shooting the person in the bedroom doorway is one of the most irresponsible things I have EVER heard! There is a reason most police officers have lights on their duty guns, IDENTIFY THE TARGET!

    The argument that it will give your position away is sooo passe.
     
  15. Highpower

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    I have several high intensity lights equipped with momentary switches. I am a big believer in using short bursts of light to make my way around in the dark if need be. A strong burst of light in someones eyes will temporarily 'blind' them by taking away their night vision for a short while. That in itself gives you a leg up against an attacker IMO.
     
  16. sweeper22

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    I don't think there's an absolute answer. There are both ample reasons to count on a light, and not to.

    I have one pistol with a light...an XDm45 with Sig laser/strobe/light. My nightstand gun. I'd imagine I'd use it in some moments, and not in others. Like most, it's blinding enough that anyone in its path wouldn't know there was a gun attached if you didn't want them to. The illumination is also fine enough that it could act as a poor-man's laser if you couldn't find a sight picture...just center the bright round circle on your target.

    Buy whatever suits your demands. We all have varying eyes, environments, risks, preferences, etc.
     
  17. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I will not stop to check an ID if someone is in my home, uninvited, at night with me home. I would probably have shot you, but I would have probably felt bad about it at the funeral.....
     
  18. JimRau

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    You MUST ID your target before you engage it! Whether you have a light on the gun or in your hand is your choice, just make SURE you have one and use it BEFORE YOU SHOOT!!! :eek:
     
  19. hardluk1

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    We use a few well place green Leviton led .03 watt night lights . They do offer enough light to see with when your eyes are adjusted to dark conditions. So holding your ground in a blacked out bed room does give you good visibility out side of that room. We do have several fenix flash lights but are more for after the fact or used away for home.
     
  20. Highpower

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    I have been in that situation once in my life, and I didn't like it. Had I fired a shot before identifying what was in front of me, I would have been the only one badly injured or killed. There are weird scenarios that can occur where shooting first won't leave you with the ability to ask questions later.