US Circuit Court Ruling in Embody vs Ward

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by alsaqr, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Anyone remember Leonard Embody, the TN guy who carried the Draco in a public park while dressed in camo? Embody painted the muzzle of the gun orange to keep the cops from shooting him. Back in July The US Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against Embody.

    http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/12a0293p-06.pdf

    i liked this statement by the court:

     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    :confused:

    God knows I am not the sharpest legal mind of this lot, but I am confused.

    So he dresses up like a soldier/militia guy and goes to the park with an AK-47 clone that is 1/2" under the legal limit to qualify as a pistol, strapped across his chest.

    He paints the tip orange to avoid being shot, or to make it appear as if he is harmless or perhaps lost from his paintball/airsoft clique'

    He brought recording equipment along, presumably to obtain evidence to be used in court once his bait worked and he was confronted about having an assault "rifle" in his possession

    And then the Supreme Court said "No, you were an idiot and you get nothing, good day sir."

    Does that about sum this up? :confused:
     

  3. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    Sounds about right.
     
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    So. Yay for the right decision. But how about a big fat legal bill for jackass taking up the court's time that could be better spent on a real case? :mad:
     
  5. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    No objection here. I have always thought the looser in a legal battle should incur all costs, including the winners, as a part of the punishment/repremend.

    Would also cull some frivelous (sp?) law suites...
     
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  6. silverado113

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    That sad part is this guy is a class III dealer! He is in a forum for dealers only and they guy is a nut job. I don't think he got enough attention as a kid. Take a look at his site's terms http://www.kwikrnu.com/terms.htm
     
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  7. Dillinger

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    I don't know about in every case, but in one like this, hell yeah! He deserves to spend the rest of his life paying the costs for this little stunt he set up to try and sue someone.

    If Joe Public sues Ford Motors over faulty product "X", and it's a clear case of Ford just throwing more money at the lawsuit to win, I don't think Joe Public should be punished.

    But if you set out to sue someone, and the court sees through your ruse, hell yes you should have to pay for wasting everyone's time.

    If this half wit Embody would have just stayed home that day 1,000's of hours since the event wouldn't have been wasted. :mad:
     
  8. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Attention comes in a lot of forms. Is it too late for a blanket party?
     
  9. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Ahh a good old fashioned blanket party. Count me in!
     
  10. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    If Joe X sues Ford and has a strong case, odds are they will settle before it ever goes that far but it IS a really good point.

    I guess if you knew you were right you could presumably throw as much money at the suit as you wanted as well assuming Ford would lose and incur that cost...might not be perfect but what about this...

    The looser pays winners cost equal to his own.

    If Ford spends 5k on a case (just a number to work with) and you spend 2 but lose, you would only be liable for 2 of the 5k Ford spent?

    All I am saying is a justice system isnt just if you end up homeless while proving you didnt rape the neighboor or kill their dog...
     
  11. Dillinger

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    I was thinking we could hand out really strong socks from someone like Under Armor and than wheel in a load of bricks. :D
     
  12. Overkill0084

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    You know you've F__ked up when...:rolleyes:
    No good was ever going to come of stupidity like that. :confused:
     
  13. Dillinger

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    I agree with you, it shouldn't be.

    The fact is in I had $300 Million in lottery winnings and I killed someone, I could out spend the prosecution to obtain a verdict where I walked out of court.

    And this is one of the things that will change when I am king. :D
     
  14. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    :p

    Ya get my vote!
     
  15. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I think your all missing the point...

    Issue hunting licenses for attorneys! Cull the herd by 60% and there won't be so many "desperate for work" attorneys willing to take cases like this.

    Tack
     
  16. Dillinger

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    Okay, you got my attention. But we need some parameters here.

    Can I hunt outside the BAR exam?

    Can I poach outside of known liberal law classes on campuses?

    If you're the a-hole with the picture on the side of the bus do I REALLY need a tag?

    Details man, we NEED details!!
     
  17. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Methinks Embody was a poster here for awhile. Handle was kwikrnu.
     
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  18. Tackleberry1

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    The Bar Exam and Know Law classes would have to be restricted...sort of like fishing salmon at the base of a fish ladder...you know we'd have to keep it "sporting" like "fair chase" and all...:cool:

    As for the Ass Hat on the side of the buss or with the commercial at 1 am asking "WERE YOU INJURED AT WORK, AT YOUR NEIGHBORS, OR STEPPING OUT OF YOUR MOTHERS SHOWER?" Call ME because your ENTITLED to compensation...as for ^^THIS^^ guy...

    We will call him a bonus tag, no tag required and no bag limit...just have a printout of his ambulance chasing advertisement with you while transporting the carcass...:D

    I can envision a whole new business opportunity for taxidermists with this. The only question would be which part to mount? The head or the ass?

    Tack
     
  19. Dillinger

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    ^^^^^ THIS is brilliant.

    Think of the aftermarket on this one. We could have forearm casts that secretly hold your handgun. You walk into the office, he jumps from his chair seeing a big payday and blammo! Just punched a tag.

    Wheelchairs. Easy to outfit with extra accessories like a belt fed minigun. Just roll into the office with your leg up and under a blanket. Easy pickings.

    Slow moving bread truck with a tree stand fashioned into a front bumper. You pull up in the middle of downtown, your buddy gets out and onto the stand/bumper and you turn on the call box with the sound of a baby wailing and when they come running, your buddy just opens up. You jump out, take what you are keeping and throw them in the back and lock up em up for mounting.....
     
  20. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    May i suggest a bounty on lawyers who sue the makers of Viagra.