Update on bolt carrier stuck

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by talbertjm, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. talbertjm

    talbertjm Member

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    bushmaster backed up their product and sent me back with no questions asked a brand new upper receiver. wolf ammo will not void warranty so all the questions asked about wolf ammo voiding warranty is false. just wanted to share my experience with everybody. thanks for everybody's concern.
     
  2. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper New Member

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    Glad to hear! Thanks for the update
     

  3. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    Great news. Bushmaster takes care of their customers, and pretty efficiently, too. ;)

    As for the steel casings, :rolleyes: don't believe everything you hear or read on the interwebz or at the local shops and ranges. I've shot Wolf through my BM, Rock River, DPMS, LMT, a Les Baer, Wilson Combat, even a Noveske, and have yet to have anything get stuck or melt into my chamber. :p

    Just make sure you clean and lube after any shooting sessions and you'll be fine. I usually have a Hoppe's Bore-Snake along with me when I go shooting. Give it a couple squirts of CLP or whatever your flavor of cleaning/lube/protection is, and drag in through the barrel when you are done shooting at the range or wherever. That normally gives it a decent clean-up, at least until I get it home and give it a thorough cleaning. And that way, no chance that anything could possibly melt and gunk up your chamber. ;)

    But, great news on your Bushy.

    Slo
     
  4. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Good info, I too believe Wolf and other steel cased "modern" ammo get a bad rap from ammo snobs.

    It's cheap and works in my 223 and 7.62 sticks just fine for plinkin'.

    Now if the complaints come from reloaders, then that is a legitimate gripe. Even some of the Eastern-Bloc brass cased ammo is non-reloadable due to the use of Berdan primers.

    The only other down-side I see is many of the ranges won't let you shoot steel cased ammo so the greedy bastards won't need to sort their brass when they sell it!
     
  5. Mutabam

    Mutabam New Member

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    Older, lacquer-coated Wolf ammo was a problem; more recent, poly-coated Wolf isn't.
     
  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I guess Cane can call me an "Ammo Snob". I have never, nor will I ever shoot steel cased ammo through my AR's. IMHO the AR was designed for brass cased ammo and that is what it will be fed, period. My AK and SKS were designed for steel cased ammo and that is what they will eat, when not feeding upon my reloads.

    I did note that Bushmaster specifically says in the owners manual that steel cased ammo is OK. They do advise against aluminum cased ammo (Blazer) in their pistol caliber carbines.
     
  7. talbertjm

    talbertjm Member

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    i put 90 rounds through my gun yesterday with no problems. it could be me or my lack of experience or both but i feel like the brass cycles faster than the steel stuff. it could be me i dont know but thats what it seemed like.
     
  8. Mutabam

    Mutabam New Member

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    Did Bushmaster diagnose why the carrier got stuck in the first place?
     
  9. talbertjm

    talbertjm Member

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    bushmaster just said that it was caused by a stuck wolf round. the ring on the backside of the shell where the extractor catches was peeled back. it was if the extractor couldn't get a good bite to extract the round. they did not say specifically it was because of the wolf round, just that the round was stuck in the chamber. they gave me a new receiver and new barrel extension. they did not leave any info saying not to use wolf ammo either. they were not too specific but i think its the ammo i was using. it had to of expanded to not be able to extract, and for the bolt to be stuck. they gave me a new receiver because the finish was peeling off.
     
  10. Mutabam

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    Do you know if the ammo you were using was the older, lacquer-coated Wolf or the newer, poly-coated Wolf? Lots of stories about the lacquer-coated stuff causing problems.
     
  11. talbertjm

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    it was the "new" stuff i believe. got it from cheaper than dirt. the lacquer stuff is shiny looking right? this was the dull looking gray in color.
     
  12. Mutabam

    Mutabam New Member

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    I don't shoot anything but my own brass-cased reloads through my ARs. If I didn't reload, I still wouldn't shoot Wolf.
     
  13. Buckwheat

    Buckwheat New Member

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    bushmaster chambers are tight.. add some extra tacky soot from shooting steel, and you'll get stuck cases. if you shoot alot, you will get stuck cases... gotta be able to address that on your own. apparently this is an addendum thread to a previous thread i haven't read, but if you get a stuck case/closed bolt, you can "mortar" the bolt back- sometimes extracting the case, and sometimes just tearing the rim off- by dropping the loaded mag, inserting an EMPTY mag (to hold the bolt open on return), and slamming the buttstock into the ground. concrete if you have a rubber buttpad, grass if it's plastic.

    if the casing extracts, scrub the chamber and carry on. if the round doesn't extract, tap it out with a cleaning rod. if the head sheers off completely, you'll need a broken shell extractor- can usually be found online for less than $20, and should always be kept in the range bag for just such an event.

    to prevent stuck cases from ever happening to begin with, get your chamber reamed with a quality 5.56 chamber reamer- i recommend the ned christianson reamer. you'll never have a stuck (non-broken) case again.