Featured Unusual Smith and Wesson Model 10-10

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by Robby Ray, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:16 AM.

  1. Robby Ray

    Robby Ray New Member

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    Hello all, I am hoping I can get some info on this fine SW revolver. So far, I haven't been able to find much about it. It is a SW Model 10-10 3 inch chambered in .357. It is marked CDC. I know that SW made some Model 10s for the California Dept. of Corrections at one time but I believe all of those were .38, and had 4 inch barrels. The gentleman I picked this up from stated it was a California Dept. of Corrections gun, but that is all the information he had. I have consulted some knowledgeable SW folks on another forum and so far they can't seem to find much about this one. I am awaiting some information from Smith and Wesson. Thanks in advance, Robby
     

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  2. Robby Ray

    Robby Ray New Member

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    According to SW email I received, this gun left the factory in 1985 as a .38 Special. Any ideas what happened along the way?
     
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  3. Rifling82

    Rifling82 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There were some model 10’s in .357 but they were earlier than the dash 10, this was done in the development stages for a K frame .357 If I remember right..... interesting, C3Shooter will be along shortly
     
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  4. sheepdawg

    sheepdawg Well-Known Member Supporter

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    So you've stuck a 357 in the cylinder and it locked up? To me you'd be nuts shooting 357 in it if S&W said it left the factory as a 38 spec.
     
  5. Robby Ray

    Robby Ray New Member

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    No sir. I haven't fired the gun. I am going to see what I can figure out about the cylinder this evening. I would not fire a .357 Magnum round from a gun manufactured for .38 special.
     
  6. sheepdawg

    sheepdawg Well-Known Member Supporter

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    But the cylinder will close on a 357 round???
     
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  7. SGWGunsmith

    SGWGunsmith Well-Known Member Supporter

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    On page 167 of the "History of Smith & Wesson" , there is a list of Model 10 M&P Variants. One of those variants is the Model 13 introduced in September 1974. Special feature: .357 M&P.

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  8. Rifling82

    Rifling82 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    does it say anything about the 10-10?.... pretty interesting, I’ll have to look at my Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson when I get home
     
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  9. Rifling82

    Rifling82 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Try sticking in a .357 cartridge and close the cylinder. Here’s what I found so far 247926E6-313F-4DC5-8083-5E24513272B6.jpeg
     
  10. Oldoutlaw

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    His pics show .357 stamped on the barrel. Also does look like a 3" barrel. CDC is stamped on the frame. Nice find I suspect. Bet there are few of these around!
     
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  11. Rifling82

    Rifling82 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yeah, I didn’t see anything about a 3” barrel Model 10-10 .357, just 10-6 like SGW said... I’m curious to see if a 357 cartridge will work, I wonder if some Dumb*** just put a .357 barrel on it
     
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  13. SGWGunsmith

    SGWGunsmith Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No, it does not, but the 10-10 is just another iteration of the Model 10, or another production run.
     
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  14. Robby Ray

    Robby Ray New Member

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    I wanted to check the cylinder last night. The .357 rounds fit just as well as they do in my Model 19, 16, and 28. It is clearly marked a 10-10, however and everything I find indicates the model 10-10 was only made in .38
     
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  15. Wambli

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    I have a friend that lives close to Smith & Wesson and he constantly buys guns that S&W “never made”. In the old days S&W used to allow employees to build parts guns for themselves and because of that there are tons of them out there from folks that retired or at some point worked for them. It could also be that some high ranking guy at the CDC asked for a shorter barrel .357 to be made as part of the order for himself or a small group of officers, which S&W would have GLADLY done for him and never bother to document. Their records suck.

    If the gun has a true .357 length cylinder (which it does) and the barrel looks legitimate (which it absolutely does) I would not have a second pause shooting that gun. The K frame is plenty strong enough for .357 ammo. Hell they even stuff .357s in their J frames. I would not sweat it and enjoy what is absolutely a remarkable oddity.
     
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  16. Robby Ray

    Robby Ray New Member

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    Thank you for that info Wambli.
     
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  17. Robby Ray

    Robby Ray New Member

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    I reached out to the California Dept of Corrections Peace Officers Association. Maybe there is an old-timer around who can offer some information. I will share if I get a reply.
     
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  18. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member Admin Moderator Lifetime Supporter

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    IIRC, S&W did a bunch of 10-6 revolvers in 357 Mag for the NY State Police. Thus a 10-10 in 357 should be viable. However, ANY K frame S&W is going to wear significantly if you feed it a regular diet of HOT magnum loads. Even my beloved Mdl 66.

    Is it possible that S&W did a special order of 10-10s in 357 for one agency? Yep.
     
  19. Wambli

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    That's a GREAT idea! Hope they have some info for you. Now I'm very curious. Good luck!