Unbelievable

Discussion in 'Firearms in the Media' started by John_Deer, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    you make it sound like liberals with guns is something new. Obama hates gun owners and guns in general and is doing all he can to remove them from our possesion, but he is surrounded by armed Secret Service. Diane Fienstien believes she has the right to keep a firearm to defend herself, but think that other LAC's don't have the right to afford themselves the same opportunity.

    we have several liberals on this forum that own guns. why does a liberal owning or shooting a gun seem unbelieveable to you?
     

  3. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    I know a guy at my gun club that is 100% neo hipster liberal. Guy shows up with sandals hemp clothing the whole works. He is a self described ultra liberal

    He also builds ARs for his main hobby. AR10s and 15s. Mostly bench shooters. Damn fine shot too.

    I asked him if he understands that his political choices are generally in direct conflict with his favorite hobby. He said it is a real kunundrum for him. I am going to keep chipping away at him........
     
  4. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A gun lover is a gun lover.
     
  5. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    a person would think so, but even one of those liberal gun lovers on this forum said that if he was required to give up his guns because the government told him to, he would give them up.

    in the immortal words of Charleton Heston, "from my cold dead hands" is how i feel about it.
     
  6. Vikingdad

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    I can attest that this is absolutely true. All around the San Francisco Bay Area people are becoming more and more enthusiastic about guns.

    The real challenge is how to join the liberal pro-gun enthusiasts with the conservative pro-gun enthusiasts. Don't be fooled, there are many anti-gun conservatives out there. Probably as many of them as there are pro-gun liberals.

    We must all join together in a pro-2A movement.
     
  7. VoxRomantic

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    How can there be any conservative that diss the 2'nd amendment????

    we like the constitution as it is, instead of tring to rewrite it every other day......
     
  8. Vikingdad

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    Like it or not there are people who are in fact conservatives who also believe in "gun control".

    At the same time there are liberals who believe in the Second Amendment.

    We, as Second Amendment Advocates, must look beyond whatever other differences we have and join together in our fight for the 2A!!!

    Stop thinking of yourselves as any specific political sub-group that might or might not support the second amendment. Work together in that and we will succeed!
     
  9. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i think the party lines have been slightly blurred over the years with many different issues that some agree on and some that are disagreed on. IMO, it's not just Republican or Democrat anymore like it use to be.

    our gun rights and the 2nd amendment are important issues that need to be protected. gun owners come from every different walks of life these days. and as such, they come from different political viewpoints and parties as well.
     
  10. Vikingdad

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    Slightly blurred? I disagree.

    Political lines have been drawn and they are not clear in any way, shape or form. We have any number of different views here on FTF who call themselves any of a few different political names. But the truth be told we are fighting the same fight.
     
  11. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    I agree with you 100%. At this point it's hard to have a conversation with pro gun extremists on either side. Neither side can just talk about defending our right to keep and bear arms without dragging all the other BS into the conversation. To defend our RKBA our focus has to be clear. We need to embrace anyone who desires the RKBA. How are we going to do that when both sides want to spit in someones eye?
     
  12. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    well it comes down to beliefs. some people want to say they support the 2nd amendment, but with exception or restrictions. sorry but IMO, you either support the 2nd amendment as it's written or you don't. there is no gray areas or middle ground when it come to supporting the 2nd amendment. those gun owners who claim they do with exception or restrictions to the 2nd are not true gun owners or supporters. owning and shooting to them is nothing more than a hobby like golf or tennis. IMO, these are nothing more than fair weathered gun owners and not true gun disciples of the 2nd amendment and what it truly means.
     
  13. nitestalker

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    I have never seen a Pro-Second Amendment Liberal movement. Do these people ever recognize or give credit to the NRA Members who have secured the right to own firearms? The Gay Rights activist made it very clear she hated the NRA. Just what rights of gun ownership do they support? :confused:
     
  14. JFietsam

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    We all need to stick together to beet this with them thanking thay takin r guns from us and with the bs of marshal law and all that bs let that happen I bet anything that we come out of it with what we all beleave in.
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    seriously dude, not to be rude, but please work on your spelling a bit. i have no idea as to what you just posted. :confused:
     
  16. Pasquanel

    Pasquanel Proud to be an American Supporter

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    It's the new shorthand :p
     
  17. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    why thank you for clearing up that mystery!:D
     
  18. Pasquanel

    Pasquanel Proud to be an American Supporter

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    Seriously if you look at our government "they" have absolutely no problem with passing laws "they" are exempt from!
    So liberal gun owners are not a mystery they are liberals (read superior intellect) and the rules apply to "you" not "them".
    Really quite simple when you stop and think about it. ;)
     
  19. Vikingdad

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    What I am saying is that all Second Amendment Advocates (SAA) must set aside their other differences such as gay marriage, abortion, religion and any other hot button issue and stand together as SAAs! No matter to what degree you support the 2A you are either all in or all out. There is no in between.

    That one person was just that. A single person who was on the news because some schmuck in the editing department wanted her to be heard.

    You are missing the more important issue which is that while she is not an NRA supporter she does support the Second Amendment. She is, despite your derision, allied with our movement.

    Check out the Pink Pistols. You will be horrified by who they are but they do support the NRA and the Second Amendment. Suck it up cupcake. There are queers with guns who want you to have guns too! :D