Turret Vs Progressive

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by texaswoodworker, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    I am currently using an old single stage press to reload all my ammo. It works great, but is slow. I'm spending quite a bit of time loading ammo to just get a single box.

    So I want something a little faster. Something that would let me crank out 200-300 rounds an hour if I really want to. So I have two choices. A progressive or a turret. Now before you start suggesting something like a Dillion. I don't have $400-$800 to set aside for a new press. As much as I'd like one, it simply won't be happening any time soon.

    I'd like to keep the price under $250 if possible.

    I have looked a two presses so far. A LEE Load Master progressive press for about $240, and a LEE Classic turret press for $110. I've heard that the Load Master can be problematic and takes some tinkering ever now and then, so I'm leaning towards the classic since it's cheaper, and more reliable. How many rounds an hour could I realistically expect to get out of a press like that?

    BTW, I'm reloading mostly pistol calibers and 223.
     
  2. duddie10

    duddie10 New Member

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    Id say ig speed is a must go progresive press. I use a lyman turret press and if works great for my pistol reloads. I just change the turret and onto another caliber i go. Most progresive presses do the same thing to. Personaly if u do go to a progresive press i think dillions 550b is what im guna get. Never had a chance to try lee presses.

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  3. Ez2b

    Ez2b New Member

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    I use the lee Load master it is a awesome press for me good starter one also.
    If money is not an object go with Dylan but for me to lee load master had the best of all worlds.
    Check them out on YouTube

    EZ
     
  4. aandabooks

    aandabooks New Member

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    About the best I can do on my Lee Turret is 200 an hour for pistol calibers. That is with the cases sized and primed before. I've got my system about as streamlined as I can figure to do it and maintain safety.
     
  5. Ez2b

    Ez2b New Member

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    Lee load master is a progressive press
    Much faster than the lee turret
    Every pull makes a bullet

    EZ
     
  6. Overkill0084

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    FWIW, I've heard both good & bad regarding the Lee Progressive. I've read that they can be fussy, though I have no direct experience however. The one guy I know that has one, likes his. Though he admits that it sometimes requires a bit of fiddling to keep things going correctly. He doesn't really mind though, others looking for a "set up and go" experience might want to look around some more.
    Most of the people I know that shoot IPSC and other high volume disciplines, all use Dillon Progressives of one sort or another.
    I don't shoot as much as I did just a year ago, so my Lee Classic Turret works well enough, my production is probably about 100 +/- per hour on a good day. However, mine isn't set up as efficiently as it could be.
     
  7. Ez2b

    Ez2b New Member

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    I agree the Lee Load Master need some fine tuning occasionally but if your mechanically inclined it's not that big of a deal you just gotta stop and look and see what's going on it is usually something stupid like a primer sideways or something of that nature. I can make about 2 to 3 hundred rounds an hour and that's not Rushing that's just taking my time enjoying the hobby.

    Because that is what it is it's a hobby gotta keep that in mind

    EZ
     
  8. Steel_Talon

    Steel_Talon New Member

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    Brother, if you don't mind tinkering and adjusting that Loadmaster can produce! She'll prrr like a cat laying on a warm window sill.... But she will hiccup now and them.. They're plenty of "you tube" vids to get you through. Plus, I think I have a pretty good sight booked marked that was really helpful when I set mine up.


    I will tell you the Lee Classic Turret will also meet your pistol expectations ,esp. if you set up different heads for your calibers, change over is FAST and not complicated. Myself I still load my bulk .223 exclusively on my Lee classic turret Bulk runs of 308 has never been a problem either

    Kempf's use to be the place to find the best "KIT" deal on the WEB

    https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php...n=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41&vmcchk=1&Itemid=41

    Myself I'd go with the turret if my expectations were 3-4 boxes a loading session ... That's about 1k rounds for every 8/10 hours of loading. How many rounds do you shoot in a session? If your numbers are close then go with the Loadmaster.

    When I was actively competing, I was shooting 1500 practice rounds a month
    minimum that's why I went with a Loadmaster. Now, I have hand loads that will outlast me LOL.

    Good luck on your choice..
     
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  9. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    I want to be able to load enough that I can go out and shoot a couple hundred rounds a week, but still build up a decent stockpile. Sounds like the Load Master is the press for me then. I'm mechanically inclined, so a little fine tuning shouldn't be a problem. :D

    Thanks guys. :)
     
  10. texaswoodworker

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    Well, I added it all up. To get everything I wanted (including the needed shell plates and a turret for each caliber I plan on reloading on this press), it works out to about $428. Not bad. A little high, but not outrageous considering how much I'm getting and how much more I will be able to do.
     
  11. string1946

    string1946 New Member

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    I have a Dillon 550B and a Lyman T Mag and I use the Lyman way more than I do the Dillon but then I just enjoy the reloading process and weigh every charge but I'm retired so I have the time.
     
  12. texaswoodworker

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    I enjoy the process too, but I unfortunately don't have the time to do that, my other hobbies, and everything that needs to be done around the house and at work. :eek:

    I haven't been loading much lately because of that. Usually just enough for one range trip the day before I plan on going.
     
  13. Ez2b

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    For the load Master I did one improvement under the primer feeder you can put a 30 ot six empty shell to catch any primers if they fall out of the loader this way you can save new primers from falling in and mixing up with old spent primers there should be a youtube video that's shows you how to do this

    EZ
     
  14. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Thanks for the tip. :)

    They suggest that you only use CCI and Remington primers for this press. Is there a reason for that? I use mostly Winchester, and some CCI since that is what the local shop has in stock.

    I will be getting the recommended explosion shield just in case either way.
     
  15. Steel_Talon

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  16. Ez2b

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    That is a good price I think that's about what I paid for mine a couple years ago.

    EZ
     
  17. Missouribound

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    I find that the hand primer is a good time saver....plus you can do it anywhere you are comfortable. I also allows a helper and doesn't tie up the press.
     
  18. gr8oldguy

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    I moved up to the Lee 3 hole press about a year ago. I had been using one of their single stage presses for years. I still use it from time to time. Once I get setup for reloading and "get in the groove" I can average 200 rounds an hour. For my shooting habits that's more than enough. I considered a progressive press, but that's just too much stuff happening at once for me to keep up with. good luck
     
  19. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Save up or hunt the local papers ads etc for a used or new dillon 650. Its worth the wait or effort to get one in any condition. They are easily repaired or sent to dillon for an overhaul.

    While they look complex they are really simple with out a lot of moving parts. I've rebuilt mine once and strip it totally to pieces 3 times a year for a good cleaning and lubing.

    They really are worth saving for or hunting the deals for. You won't be sorry