Turning 18, Firing Range Question

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by xneogenx, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. xneogenx

    xneogenx New Member

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    So I have had an interest in firearms for a long time. Not as a tool for aggression as most people will seem to perceive them as, but as a relaxation in a firing range, or self defense if it ever comes to that in a dire situation. I will be turning 18 this September 4th, and I want to go to a firing range for the first time soon after. But I want to get some information clarified to me.

    I live in the state of New Jersey, and I am aware of the firearm laws here. I cannot own a semi-automatic rifle/shotgun until the age of 18, and I cannot own a firearm until the age of 21. Now here is where my question comes into play. My father (whom passed away only a few years ago of cancer) was a police officer, so understandably, he had a few guns from his time. He owns a Stainless Steel High Standard 22 Magnum Derringer, a Stainless Steel Smith & Wesson Model 36 Chiefs Special .38 Special, and a Blue Steel Sig Sauer Model 230 .380 Semi-Automatic. All of these weapons are in a great condition and are capable to be safely fired.

    My question is, due to the law saying I cannot legally own these weapons myself, would I still be able to legally bring these 3 firearms to the shooting range, purchase ammunition for them there, and use them at the range? Or at the age of 18 would I only be able to bring a rifle for firing?
     
  2. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Sorry to hear about your dad passing away.

    The people who can authoritatively answer your question are the folks who run the shooting range. Give them a call and ask.

    In New York, you cannot handle or be in possession of a handgun unless you have a permit. If you inherit a handgun, you must leave it with a friend who has a permit or leave it with a trusted FFL while you wait to get your permit or the estate must sell it immediately. If the laws in New Jersey are similar and your mom or whichever adult you live with does not have a permit, you may not want to bring undue attention to the fact your family is in possession of these handguns until you can legally get everything squared away; it would be a shame if they were confiscated outright.

    So you might want to do some research first on being in possession of handguns and understand the status of the adult(s) living with you and the legality of it all BEFORE you call the range.

    Happy upcoming birthday! My son's the same age, but we managed to get him out shooting quite some time ago. :)
     

  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I do not know the laws of New Jersey.
    I believe that the state has a website for some of your questions.

    Because those firearms probably belong to your mother (because of your age), maybe you should ask her opinion.

    One thing that may assist is your offering to clean the weapons (and don't dry fire the .22's). See if your mother has the manuals and read them, study them, remember them.

    Good luck.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Disclaimer- I am not a lawyer. My legal advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.

    For NJ laws- CLICK HERE: http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf/firearms/062408_title13ch54.pdf

    However, there is also a FEDERAL law that applies. A person under he age of 21 may not purchase HANDGUN ammo. There is an exception for dual purpose ammo IF it is to be used in a long gun.

    So no, you can't. However, many states have an exception for a minor under the direct instruction of an adult when that adult legally possesses a firearm. Check with the range.
     
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  5. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    OR-you can do what I, and many like me, did.

    LEAVE New Jersey.

    Find out what it's like to have gun ownership and CCW

    in a REAL state...
     
  6. xneogenx

    xneogenx New Member

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    Well I am pretty positive that my mother legally owns these weapons, but if not I have no doubt my oldest brother of 25 has a permit, because he has taken them to the range prior to now. I will be talking to my friend's father, whom is a police officer, about all of this soon but I wanted to get some information about it all first. My main concern is the ammunition. I am sure I would be fine to take the guns to a range, but I would need to buy ammunition for them and I am not completely sure if I can legally buy it at the age of 18.



    And trust me, when I am through in college and I have the money, I plan to move from New Jersey most likely.

     
  7. c3shooter

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    Am quite sure you cannot legally purchase handgun ammo until you are 21 in ANY state. This is a C&P from the Federal law, which is Title 18, US Code, Section 922:

    (b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver—
    (1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than eighteen years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age
     
  8. xneogenx

    xneogenx New Member

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    ALright than on another note to that subject, If the ammo was purchased for me already, and I brought the weapon and ammunition to the range, would that be acceptable (assuming this range allows outside ammunition)? Or would it still fall under the same jurisdiction?
     
  9. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    thats true.. unless its for a rifle.. they make rifle carbines in everything, 9mm ,.40 ,45, and 357.. i just say its for my rifle. and they dont bat an eye.. or online... its a peice of cake
     
  10. xneogenx

    xneogenx New Member

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    WHich is a true thing. I want to buy a Marlin 925 .22 Bolt Action Rifle. Coincidentally, my .22 Magnum Derringer accepts rifle rounds. So if I wanted to, I could cross load.
     
  11. BlindOldMan

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    Oh wow.

    I share the same birthday of September 4.. My dad passed away this past July 8th. I was just chatting with a friend a few weeks previously about how my dad had taught me how to shoot. I am sorry to hear about your dad.

    I can't answer your question but your post just so close.
     
  12. xneogenx

    xneogenx New Member

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    Mine passed away April 17, 2007. Unfortunately, he never got to teach me how to shoot. We never did get to spend the quality time I would have liked, but I loved him anyway. He taught me more than even he realized. I am better for it.

    and in return, I too am sorry for your loss.
     
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  13. therewolf

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    IME that works in a general sense, but many rimfire pistols are

    a little picky about what they shoot dependably.

    So 22LR rifle ammo may or may not work in the derringer,

    but pistol ammo(higher priced) will definitely work in the rifle...
     
  14. xneogenx

    xneogenx New Member

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    Well The derringer was taken to the range by my brother and cousin, and apparently it does accept .22 rifle rounds
     
  15. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    The question isn't whether the rifle ammo will chamber, it's dependability of the

    rounds. Box ammo tends to be a little more geared towards rifles.

    But if it shoots discount pack ammo well, more power to ya...;)
     
  16. vincev

    vincev New Member

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    hi xneogenx,welcome to the world of firearms.This comment has nothing to do with your question.You never have to explain to us or anybody else why you like to shoot.If its for relaxation,target, protection,etc. it needs not be anyones but your reason.Anti gun people NEVER see any reason to own or shoot a firearm.If someone asks you why,just tell them because the Constitution says you could.Enjoy dads firearms.