Trying my hand a homemade Jacketed bullet making.

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Rick1967, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I have seen threads on other forums about making bullet jackets out of once fired cases. The equipment needed was always too expensive for me to just experiment. But I read about someone making 357 bullet jackets out of .380 cases. I have wanted to make some major caliber fast bullets.

    The first thing I did was to anneal the cases. I heated them to red hot. Then dropped them into a plastic jug of water. I dried them off and lubed them real good.

    I used my RCBS lube-a-matic II to size the cases down to .358. Then I used a lee push through sizer on my press to get down to .356.

    Then I gently used an 8mm mauser sizing die with the decapper removed. I gently pushed the cases up into the die to reach the neck part of the die. It put the round nose on the end of the brass. Then I took a lead 150 grain 8mm bullet and stuck it in the case. I heated it with a torch to melt the lead into the case. I just let the left over lead run over the top. Then I used a pointed tip on my lube-matic again to squeeze the final tip on the bullet.

    This is a pic of a couple finished bullets. They home made rounds weigh 175 grains. The round in the middle it a factory 140 grain bullet for comparison.
     

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  2. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    This is what I am making them for. It is a .357 Herrett. That is a necked up 30-30 case with a .357 bullet. That is one of the bullets that I made. It will push that bullet somewhere around 2000 fps. Not bad for a pistol!
     

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    This is a picture of the 357 Herrett next to a 357 Magnum. Just for a size comparison. I will be shooting this out of a 14 inch barreled Thompson Contender.
     

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  4. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    That's pretty interesting, and very clever. Good job.



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  5. jebsca

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    Let us know how it works. It's something to think about anyhow.
     
  6. Rick1967

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    It is a lot of work. Probably not worth it from a money-vs-time point. It would be cheaper to buy the bullets for reloading. But it is very interesting to play around with. If I were to buy the ammo already made I would have to buy it on line. It is $136.00 for 50 rounds. Plus hazmat and shipping.
     
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    There are also people making 451 and 454 bullets from 45 ACP cases. I don't plan on doing that right now. But if we were to have another shortage of ammo and components...well, who knows?
     
  8. Txhillbilly

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    Rick,there's no need to quench your brass in water after you anneal it. It does nothing for the brass,it's not like other metals that do require quenching.

    That's very interesting making bullet jackets that way.:cool:
     
  9. BtDoctur

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    No Hazmat charge for ammunition
     
  10. jebsca

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    Would make for being able to not worry about burning what ever he drops the cases on. At that point it's more of a safety thing.
     
  11. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I quench after anealing just for convenience and saving my fingers.

    I agree, interesing exercise. You might try some paste flux inside the cases to make a "bonded" bullet
     
  12. Rick1967

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    Well I finally got to the range with the ammo. I was shooting at a distance of 85 yards. It took a few setting on the scope. But this was my last 6 shots. Not bad for a handgun. I will need to make my bullets more consistant next time. I weighed each bullet before I loaded them. The varied from 162 grains to 182 grains. I am very happy with the results so far.
     

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    Nice. What do you think caused the weight difference?
     
  14. Rick1967

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    I filled the cases with molten lead. Some were obviously more full than others. But I used them anyway. Next time I will use my casting equipment to properly pour into each case. This time I simply held a torch up to the case with 32 caliber bullet sitting in it. Some were flush with the top of the case. Then others were a bubble over the top. And a few were even a little below the rim. When I used the lubrisizer to mash them down they all looked pretty close. But some were obviously more dense than others.

    I would like to have them all within 2 or 3 grains of each other next time.
     
  15. nitestalker

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    That is a very interesting post. I have made jacketed bullets for the .44 Mag. I use the .40 S&W brass to swage over cast lead bullets. My problem has been accuracy. I think years ago the accuracy expectations were not as great as they are now. The science of making our own bullets is a very interesting pursuit. Nice post.:)

    Bullet cores have to be made from pre-molded cores or cast bullets. It is impossible to cast cores into jackets and eliminate air pockets. That is where your bullet weights will be off. Modern bullets have "Ballast" points this creates better accuracy. I can not seem to match this with my home made bullets. :(
     
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    Hey nitestalker.

    I was out in my garage and saw a 44 mag case sitting there begging to be messed with. Then I noticed my coffee can full of 40S&W brass. I made a dozen bullets and seated one in the 44 case just for the heck of it. Then I came in and saw your post.

    What size core did you cast? Were you seating a 40 cal bullet or something different?

    My total weight on this bullet was 275 grains.
     

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