Trijicon TA33G-H ACOG

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by 1911love, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. 1911love

    1911love New Member

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    I've been looking at this optic for a few days and wonder if anyone here has an exp with it. It's a 3x30 ACOG with the green horseshoe reticle. I'm looking for a short range optic, point blank to 300 yards for 5.56. I need it light and compact.

    How well does the green show up in really bright light? How well does it show up in complete darkness? Is the green better/faster than the red or amber?

    I've heard these ACOGs are great at distance, but I'm not sure about close in use. How does it perform in the 50 yards and under range?

    I've looked at red dots such as the Comp M4, but I'm concerned with target identification/observation. Any thoughts or other options that would work better would be welcomed. Thanks.
     
  2. JonM

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    ive got a ta31f-g green chevron. its very very visible in daylight assuming the one your looking at uses the fiber optic. the coolest thing is it selfadjusts automaticaly for visible light conditions. once you zero it you never have to touch it again. no batteries no mucking with rheostat dials.

    my preference is green over red its easier to pick up under any lighting conditions especially dusk and dawn where red has the most issues with being seen

    i shoot mine both eyes open and it does just fine zero to however far you care to target. if your not used to shooting with two eyes open its going to take practice doesnt matter if its a rds or acog, learning curve for both
     

  3. 1911love

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    Thanks Jon! Yeah, it's the fiber optic one. I'm concerned about brightness though. I want it really bright bc my eyes aren't what they used to be.

    Also, as a non LEO/MIL I would prob only be firing inside maybe 100 yards. I don't want to give up quickness at the short distances, but I need the medium range target identification/observation up to around 300 yards. I know it's not as quick as a Comp M4 inside 100 yards, but is it quick enough for a serious SD situation?

    I'm really torn bc these things aren't cheap and I can only afford one new optic at the moment. I've also seen the Accupoint, but I'm not sure if it's fast enough for close range work and I'm concerned about the size and weight.
     
  4. JonM

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    At less than 100 your target is going to totally fill the scope. Brightness isnt an issue some folks think its too bright but im not one of em.

    I dont know how much rifle shooting you do but on human sized targets its fast enough. Your not going to see many used in 3gun comps most of those guys use 1-4 and 1-6 scopes. At fairly close ranges im not using optics or sights much mainly just point and shoot.

    Ive taken up cowboy action shooting and its been helping a lot with quick shooting even though its lever gun and single action revolver shooting is shooting.

    Its a proven cqb optic in use by our troops.

    Im not trying to convince you to get one just cuz its my goto optic.
     
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  5. JonM

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    Oh one other thing. Gander mountain and cabelas both stock acogs might take a peek at ome in person. If your anywhere close to se wisconsin your welcome to try my setup out
     
  6. 1911love

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    Thanks for the kind offer Jon, I'm just a little too far away, Florida. Most of the dealers around me only stock the RMR and the Tri-Power. I train with the Sheriff's SWAT team on occasion, maybe I should give them a quick call this weekend. Most of them have EoTechs, so unless someone got something new I'm out of luck. Any additional info, no matter how small, would be appreciated. I might just have "to take the plunge" without seeing it in person.
     
  7. JonM

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    I dont think you will be sorry at all. I love mine and was a fence sitter for years

    The tri power will have the same sort of glow system if you leave tbe battery off as the acog. The accupoint does too.
     
  8. treehugger49

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    The ACOG was designed and manufactured for the exact conditions you've described - CQB out to medium-range distances of several hundred meters.

    Among the ACOG owners' community you will find disagreement on which reticle (triangle, crosshair, chevron, horseshoe) and colors are best under given conditions, but I've never heard anyone voice regret about their purchasing one.

    I think you'll find the brightness more than adequate. The brighter the outside light, the more light the fiber optic strands transmit to the reticle. I've seen some folks even cover some of the length of fiber optic strand with electrical tape to "tone down" the brightness of the reticle.

    Crystal clear lens and a very robust body. It should last through just about whatever you put it through, and "Made in the USA" to boot.

    I think you'll be very pleased with it.
     
  9. 1911love

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    Thanks guys, it looks like I won't be going out to dinner for a while! Any thoughts on the best place to order it if my LGS can't get it?
     
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    several of our vendors on ftf stock them cameraland being one.

    i would skip the larue mount, i totally disagree with treehugger on that. the larue mounts are total junk in my opinion. i had one of their rco mounts (still got it) the lock lever wedge that holds the optic to the rail digs in and starts scalloping out hunks of rail material. over time mine loosed up from damage to the rail. failure to hold zero without doing damage to a pricey rifle makes larue a total skip in my book.

    i replaced my larue mounts with ones from american defense manufacturing here in wisconsin. superb mounts rock solid with repeatable return zero no matter how many times its mounted and dismounted.

    larues ship with soft non-hardened screws that will strip out if you ever need to remove the mount from the optic. had to drill out my pricey acog to get those pos larue screws out. fortunately i didnt damage the threads.

    best thing of using adm mounts is you never have to deal with the arrogance of larue tactical!!
     
  12. 1911love

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    Thanks Treehugger, I saw that, but heard about what JonM said concerning rail damage. I've heard of the ADMs, but don't know much about them. I'll be doing more research for sure.

    Thanks again guys, these are really expensive so I need any info available before buying. Once I get it I'll have to do a write up to "pay it forward" for the next guy. Thanks again and any other info will be greatly appreciated.
     
  13. locutus

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    I have the TA31h with red horseshoe/dot on my colt 6940.

    I love it. Fast and accurate.
     
  14. 1911love

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    How do you like when shooting 50 yards and under? Are you happy with the reticle brightness in extreme sunlight and also when shooting from the shade/dark room into extreme sunlight? Thanks.
     
  15. JonM

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    the reticle on the acogs shows up extremely well under all lighting conditions. in extreme bright light you could swear they were battery powered. being int he shaded area or even dark looking out into bright light is not an issue with these optics. its simply amazing how they adjust to ambient lighting conditions. thats the huge advantage is not having to fidle with brightness settings.
     
  16. 1911love

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    Thanks again Jon! I'm getting pretty close to having the purchase price saved, can't help myself from doing more research! Jon, how many ACOGs have you owned?
     
  17. locutus

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    I currently own three. I've been completely satisfied with all three. Near perfect under any lighting conditions, and really great in low light.
     
  18. 1911love

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    Thanks Loc. What models do you own? What is your opinion of reticle choices?
     
  19. locutus

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    TA31h
    TA45R4
    TA33RH

    I really like all three. I'm not sure that I could pick a favorite among these three.

    The TA45R4 just may be a bit more precise due to the crosshair, and the other two just a hair faster to acquire. But if there really is a difference it's small.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that whatever reticle strikes your fancy will probably satisfy your needs.
     
  20. 1911love

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    Cool. Thanks again Loc. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks top quality glass is as important as the platform it rides on. Most people I shoot with wouldn't spend that much for glass.