trigger job

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing Forum' started by crazybread223, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. crazybread223

    crazybread223 New Member

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    I would like to lessen the trigger pull on my daughters p22 shes five and has a hard time pulling the trigger anyone want to walk me through it
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    She's five. My son is six. He shoots. I think I personally recommend a different gun. Do you really think lightening the trigger pull on a semi auto for a five year old is really that freaking great of an idea? I hope you get no help from anyone here. Can she even properly HOLD the gun? How about a bolt action and a bench?
     

  3. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i agree with Trip. doing something like this on pistol for use by a five year old seems like a very bad idea. if wanting to start her shooting, then get one of the single shot 22 rifles made for child. much safer and way better to teach them about shooting and doing it safely. i think a pistol and a five year old, even the P22 is a bad combination.
     
  4. Hookeye

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    Tactical Toddlers wear Magpul diapers.
     
  5. crazybread223

    crazybread223 New Member

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    Thanks for your concern to set the record straight she's turning 6 this month she has a pink cricket she's been shooting said she was two been at the range practically her whole life and safety is my biggist concerned this is her first handgun and she is always supervized I realize it's scary but some point you have to make the transition from bench shooting to standing shooting
     
  6. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    First, punctuation is our friend. Second, if you want to figure out how to lighten the trigger pull of a semi auto for a 5/6 year old, I am going to guess you won't find out how to do it here.
    And there is absolutely nothing wrong with a child shooting a handgun. My son's pistol of choice is a single action revolver "just like a cowboy".
    If you are intent on doing this, fine. You may actually find help here. I just hope you don't. Accidents happen all the time, and customizing the function of a semi for a child is just asking for it in my opinion, no matter how much you dig safety. How about the 9 year old boy who killed himself with an uzi at a machine gun shoot a few years ago? He had his father, a safety officer, and a law enforcement officer RIGHT THERE AT HIS SHOULDER!!! Sh!t happens, some of us just don't ask for second helpings.
     
  7. crazybread223

    crazybread223 New Member

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    I'm sorry Trip is this a gun or grammar forum. R u really going to compare a full auto uzi to a semi auto p22 don't be a douch
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    no Trip isn't a douche, but has brought up some valid points that maybe you need to heed. in the hands of a five year old with a lightened trigger, yes i would compare it to a full uzi! if you are dead set on teaching her to shoot a pistol, then start her out with a single action revolver in 22. a pistol with a lightened trigger isn't for a child, newbie or the inexperianced shooter by any means regardless of the caliber. an accident can happen much quicker than you think. if your five year old isn't able to pull the trigger, then maybe common sense on your part should tell you that she isn't ready for that pistol yet. you can do want you want, but i sure hope no one has to pay the ultimate price for your arrogance!
     
  9. bearrwe

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    As a father, gunsmith and former firearms instructor/safety officer I Must agree with Trip and Axxe. If nothing else you should have takin away that even with 3 people surrounding the child watching out for his safety an accident still occurred taking the child's life! It was not to compare the guns! Although I agree a semi or fully auto weapon in a child's hand does increase the risk of an accident such as an "accidental discharge" becoming multiple discharges.
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    thank you Bear for the support in this thread. i personally see doing something of this nature as irresponsible on his part as a father, to put his own child in possible danger just for the sake of teaching her to shoot something she is probably in all reality not anywhere near ready for. i hope he rethinks the comments made here and changes his idea of such a foolish thought of trying to modify a pistol for a five year old child, before tragedy has a chance to possibly change their lives permamently.

    i will even venture this may not have been thought of. what of the possible legal problems that could occur for him if there was, God forbid an accidental shooting? child endangerment, negligent manslaughter, and other possible charges for modifying a firearm to make it easier for a child to shoot. just some other things to mull over when you pick up a firearm and want to modify it for a child.

    you can think i am an a$#%$@e if you want, but my consience would not allow me not to say what i feel about this idea and try to avert what could have tragic results for you and your family.
     
  11. Jpyle

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    Sorry OP, must agree with the other posts here. If your daughter cannot physically manage the mechanics of the gun, she is not ready for it. Modifying a purposely designed heavy trigger pull is a dangerous proposition if done to "force" a child's ability before they are ready. She has plenty of time to develop the dexterity and hand strength required to do it safely.
     
  12. Wilder

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    I have to agree with Trip, Axxe, and Bear on this one. If a customer came into our shop and asked for what you just asked; we would tell them 'no' in much the same manner as these 3 have said it to you.
    I have also seen too many botched home trigger jobs to encourage anyone who has to ask how it is done, to do one. It is incredibly easy to make a semi-auto hand gun go full-auto with just a few small tweaks in the wrong places of a trigger group.

    Tangent: Grammar and punctuation are important on forums like this because a slight error can drastcally change the meaning of what you have said. Taking the time to spell words correctly, and get those dots in the right places helps to avoid confusion. I'm no english teacher, and I make my fair share of mistakes, but I try. Not to make myself look smarter, but so others can understand me more easily. Someone who doesn't take a few moments to proofread and correct their posts, is telling us they don't feel we are worth that extra effort. Although a minor one, it is a sign of disrespect to other members of the forum.
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    dang Wilder i'll have to brush up on my grammar now!:D but in all seriousness, well said and thank you for another point for him to consider.

    JPyle, well said by you too and some good advice from you also.

    i am hoping that he understands this is a bad idea before something tragic happens.
     
  14. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    I agree with the others, on both counts.

    If the trigger is too heavy for your daughter then she is not ready for that gun. If you are asking on a forum how to do a trigger job you should not even think of attempting it based on what you read on the internet.

    If you spend some time here on FTF, you will find that we as a group are probably just as passionate about children and safety as we are about firearms, especially when they are combined. I have kids, they learned how to shoot at a young age. They are easily more strict about safety discipline as I am, and I am proud of that because we (their mom (who is also my wife) and I) worked very hard to get them where they are.

    What you are proposing to do is not only unsafe, it is unwise to teach your daughter that approach to firearms. Meaning that if a gun doesn't suit you for some reason then you monkey with it until it either suits you or you screw it up (the latter is probably more likely with what you describe) and somebody gets shot and possibly killed.
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    Viking, i think the guy left the forum. he made these postings about the pistol and hasn't been back since. probably in search of another forum where he can find someone who will tell him how to do it. we can only hope his child is not the casualty of his arrogance and ignorance.

    BTW, i like what you said anyways. mirrors what others and i tried to tell him. glad to see someone else sees the big picture too.
     
  16. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    Axxe,
    I figure he did as well, but on the off chance that he is still lurking I fired that off.

    Thanks for the props.
     
  17. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    good call Viking. if he is just lurking, better for him to see more of us just don't think it's a wise thing to do. BTW, you'r welcome and thanks to you for posting too.
     
  18. Vikingdad

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    de Nada, we have to do it "for the children".
     
  19. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    personally i don't have any kids, but that doesn't mean i want someone putting a child in danger because of stupidity. i know that many members here do have kids and they tend to take safety of firearms and their children pretty serious and i am glad to see that.
     
  20. Vikingdad

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    My best friend (who is 15 years older than me) doesn't have any kids and has never really liked them around, but he likes my boys and invites us to the range where he is a lifetime member all the time. He has even given a couple of guns to the boys.

    You don't have to have kids to love 'em, or at least to care about their safety.

    I hope the OP figures out that we are right before he finds some idiot to tell him how to do a trigger job.