Trees for Vikingdad.......

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by winds-of-change, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I finally remembered to stop and take a pictures of those trees for you. These are the "flat trees" we were talking about a while ago. I forgot what you called them. I took various angles of pictures for you. They are not intertwined in a fence like I thought. It looks like the lower branches are wired to posts and the top ones just are aligned with no form of support. These leaf out every year. Maybe I'll get pictures of them later this season when they are fully leafed out. They are also very adorned with Christmas lights in the winter. Each tree has it's own color lights. I don't know what kind of trees they are and I can't remember if I've seen them flowering in the Spring.

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  2. deadsp0t

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    Wow those look crazy!!! Never seen anything like that..
    I'm guessing they are trimmed that way? Dang
     

  3. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Once saw a 300 acre commercial apple orchard that was trying the espalier system. Trees pruned to grow flat, two main branches each side of trunk, wires thru the upper branches, second wire lower branches, with drip irrigation tube on bottom wire.

    The got less fruit per tree, but more trees per acre, harvest was faster, spraying trees was a breeze.
     
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  7. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I'll have to keep an eye on them and see if they bloom. I haven't noticed any fruit on them over the years. But they have always caught my eye as long as I lived here. I was actually in their driveway taking pictures of those trees. I was hoping they wouldn't shoot at me. LOL Their driveway is fairly long and I'll bet I'm not the first one to stop and take pictures.
     
  8. Vikingdad

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    Thanks Winds! When they leaf out they look like they make a great driveway screen for them. And yes, that would be espalier, though some people (horticultural fanboys) would say that the branches should be parallel to the ground at at more or less right angles to the trunk, but true espalier is just flat, which these are. That would make a nice barrier around a garden if done right. I can see doing it with a variety of fruit trees and letting them get to be no more than 8 feet tall. The deer would keep them pruned on the outside of the garden and the gardener would take care of the inside. It would make a much prettier "fence" than one made out of milled lumber or wire. Here is a good gate to use for this garden, though I would make it taller.

    I am now thinking of getting a couple of Kiwis (you need to have a male and a female in order for them to produce fruit) and then planting them closely together then making them into an espalier where the male/female plants will be intertwined. They would also be in a large pot so that I can move them around if need be.
     

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  9. MattShlock

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    Looks like tree BDSM to me. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
     
  10. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I would guess that the trees I took pictures of were about 15 feet tall or so. The gate you posted is beautiful. I'll take pictures of these trees throughout the season, including them fully lit for Christmas. They are attractive any time of the year. I have no idea how old they are but I've been in my home since 1986 and they were always there. Maybe I'll approach the house or see the owners outside some day and talk to them about how I admire their trees. I could get the history then.
     
  11. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Especially when Vikingdad mentions binding the males and females together. :eek:
     
  12. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Vikingdad, any idea on what kind of trees these might be?
     
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    WOW never seen or heard of anything like that. pretty neat
     
  14. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Well, I had always seen these trees since I lived where I'm at now. I had no idea it was a sort of tree pruning that is known to horticulturists. Then Vikingdad mentioned it and I had to show him these trees.
     
  15. Vikingdad

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    Had to look up BDSM. Yeah, it is kind of like that!;) You are forming the tree into an unnatural shape and then maintaining it. A better example of tree BDSM would be Circus Trees of Axel Erlandson- the technique was invented by Erlandson just a few miles from me, and some of his trees still survive, but most of them were moved to Gilroy CA when they were bought by John Bonfante for his wife, Claudia (I have met the Bonfantes, they are good friends of a former manager I had). Fascinating trees though. Someday I might play around with that technique just for the fun of it. Here is a Wiki link that explains it- if for no other reason but to see some pictures of these Circus Trees- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circus_Trees


    Now, as to the espalier trees Winds took pictures of, I can't tell what kind they are. Do they bloom out? If so they could be a non-fruiting cherry or plum. The bark looks sort of like those. Are the leaves colored other than green? Like red? And what shape are the leaves? When they break buds and leaf out send me a pic of them then. Or you could knock on the doors to the houses! Those trees must be maintained to keep the shape, so it is likely one or both of the neighbors know what they are. On closer look they look like a combination of Pollarding and Espalier, the Pollarding has been done in a single plane. Here are a couple of pics of Pollarding.
     

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  16. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Wow, that Pollarding is very cool.

    I may go knock on the door of the home those trees sit on. I would imagine they'd be thrilled to talk about their awesome trees.
     
  17. Gone_South

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    I'd bet money you would not be the first person to ask.
     
  18. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I'm sure you're right. And just like we like it when someone asks us about guns, I bet they get excited when someone wants to talk about their trees.
     
  19. Vikingdad

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    I hope so! It would be interesting to know what they are.