Training without Ammo

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by Beezer, Jan 4, 2014.

  1. Beezer

    Beezer New Member

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    I am a relatively new handgun owner and shooter. I have a 9mm. In my area, 9mm ammunition is scarce. I am aiming to improve my grip (easy to do) and my trigger control. As I dig into trigger control, there are a lot of differing opinions on how to improve without going to the range.

    I've read tons of articles and watched quite a few YouTube videos, but there does not seem to be a consistent theme.

    "Dry fire."
    "NO! Don't ever dry fire!"

    "Use Air Soft."
    "Air soft is useless, as there is no recoil."

    "Use a training pistol."
    "Don't waste your money on a training pistol."

    I figured I would put this here to get some opinions on the best way to practice shooting without actually using ammunition.

    In the absence of ammunition, how do you train?
     
  2. Fred_G

    Fred_G Member

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    Dry practice is, in my experience very good if done right. By right, I mean safely, and with the proper technique.

    Let me look for a link I am thinking of...

    Here: http://www.rangemaster.com/current-newsletter.html

    Download or open, and go to page 8.

    One thing you can add, if you carry concealed, is a fan blowing on you from different directions, so your cover garmet might not cooperate with you.
     
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  3. davva360

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    I dry fire practice. I always clear the gun and lock all live ammo back in the safe. I find it beneficial for all of the reasons stated in the article. It's just about the only way I can practice drawing and firing as all the ranges here do not permit holsters on the range.
     
  4. AustinArmory

    AustinArmory New Member

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    I personally train with all above and teach my students to do the same.
    They all have points that can help in areas, but you have to follow up with live fire.
     
  5. John_Deer

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    If you own a ruger dry firing will not hurt it. Ruger encourages their owners to dry fire all their pistols even rimfire pistols. The only modern centerfire pistols dry firing will damage are double actions such as the kel tec P11.

    The Canadian military is known for their sharpshooters. They train with 22 rifles. There is little difference in training with a pistol or a rifle. In fact, a training pistol will help more than a rifle because all the shooting is done at close range. An air rifle champion won top shot a few years ago.

    As a new shooter you need to shoot as many guns as possible. The gun club I belong to has 3 former national champions, a retired Olympic coach and two young shooters who are going to make a run at a national championship this year. They shoot any gun they can get their hands on. Everyone of them has an eight shot Maverick 88 that they use for trick shots, even though they shoot double barrels in competition. We all love hunting. No one hunts with a double barrel. How can you shoot three quail with a double barrel?
     
  6. AR10

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    Find an NRA instructor near you and sign up for classes.
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    There are things called "snap caps" that, for some, are a good practice tool.

    The bad thing about snap caps is that you have to triple check you are practicing with them and not live ammo. And when not practicing, you have live ammo and not snap caps.

    These are designed to accept the firing pin hit without damaging a firearm.
     
  8. Jagermeister

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    The snap caps over here are completely red, also seen blue. Is there a color code in the US? Would be Kind of dumb to have a snap cap with no identification. :eek:
     
  9. John_Deer

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    When I use snap caps I use them in a room with no live ammo in it. I have never had a ND but I had a close call. Since then I unload my gun and go into another room with snap caps.

    Snap caps have no color code like shotgun shells. I have 9mm and 357 snap caps, they both are red.
     
  10. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Most are red. I've seen inexpensive ones in Academy Sports. At the price, should they break, no problem. Just get some more.
     
  11. Beezer

    Beezer New Member

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    Sound advice. I am actually slated to take a course with the local sheriff's office in a few weeks.
     
  12. AR10

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    A trainer I know uses snap caps you have a hard time telling are not real,.across the room, they look real.

    I gave him some bright orange ones, but you can lead a horse to water...... He does not use them. Some people look at something better and fail to see it.

    A LEO took his class and refused to do a training exercise with his snap caps, because they were not something he 100% trusted. I saw him refuse to pull the Trigger in class. Good for him, and everyone in the class. Safety first.

    They have bright orange ones on Amazon. No mistaking them for real.
    That is what I use.
     
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  13. Vincine

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    I got a 9mm. It was 'expensive' to practice with. So I got a .22lr. It became expensive AND hard to find. (Ha ha! **** me) Dry firing a semi, racking the slide each time, is annoying as compared to a revolver. It doesn't give you recoil control, but it should help with trigger control. I've a red dot on my 9 and I can see the dot move, or not, when I pull the trigger. You can get a barrel laser and do the same thing. I heard some people put a coin on the barrel and try to keep it from falling off.
     
  14. Threetango

    Threetango Audentes Fortuna Iuvat Supporter

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    For demonstration purposes.
    These "Snap Caps" are a crimson red color.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. ninjatoth

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    I say any practice is good on some level, even if it don't feel like your own gun. I shoot my kid's airsoft sig 226, 1911, and chiefs special 45 with them, all spring powered so you have to cock it every time, and the guns are too light, but it provides some level of marksmanship training and trigger control and is fun, you can shoot 1000s of rounds for pennies, that's good for everyone to do. I have considered a full metal gas blowback airsoft gun or double action gas revolver to step it up a bit.
     
  16. Jagermeister

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    I use the A-Zoom snap caps. Good quality product. Easily recognized as a snap cap. :D