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Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by notdku, May 9, 2007.
Has anyone here taken any coursework or classes related to firearms?
I've had a few classes, but what type of relationship to firearms did you have in mind?
I've just simply taken a hunter education course when I was about 11.
Here are a few of the courses I have completed:
Gunsite Academy; Pistol 250, Pistol 350, Pistol 499, Pistol Private Lesson, LE Instructor, Instructor Apprentice
TacTrain Skill at Arms Development; CCW, Battle Pistol Level-I through VIII, Battle Carbine Level-I through IV, Battle Shotgun Level-I & II, Battle Rifle PFR Level-I through VI, Concealed Carry, Two-Gun, Anti-Terrorism/Counter-Terrorism, Tactical Ground Rappelling Level-I & II, Armed Guard Level-I & II
A few NRA courses including personal protection, pistol, rangemaster, metallic reloading and Gabe Suarez along with pistol and shotgun courses with Security Enforcement Training Academy and some expert ratings with various small arms in the US Army, pistol, rifle, machinegun, bayonet.
Certified TacTrain, LLC Chief Instructor, certified DPS CCW and Armed Guard Instructor, certified NRA Instructor, 3 courses approved by AZPOST
Not being in, or near, any of the gun friendly states I've been limited to the NRA stuff. I'm now an instructor trainer for the MN concealed carry courses. Someday when my ship comes in I'll head out to Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, or something similar.
I know for some CB, like yourself, some locations in the US are challenged with a Time/Distance issue for attending schools of substance and value. I hope you get to attend your choice of a big hitters soon.
There are also a lot of training organizations not so big whom offer quality classes which are value packed. Of course the same running issue is finding them. There isn't any national certification organization to offer referrals to students, so it makes it difficult for many to find them as opposed to other industries.
There are some Law Enforcement Orientated organization who publish a list of trainers, such as AZLET, whom for the most part provid quality training and are located all over the country in every state. Some of these trainers even offer civilian classes although not containing the exact content as the LEO versions. And of course there is the NRA, but they only list schools certified for NRA courses (...and again some of these trainers also offer other non-NRA classes).
I myself am not particularly fond of the NRA courses, although I have seen a recent attempt from the NRA to improve some of their courses which better suit the growing market for self-defense training.
In my area (Phoenix Metro) there are probably 125 training organization which are either active or semi-active. Of those I would say maybe 20 offer structured training courses of value to civilian students wishing to improve their self-defense skills. Out of those 20 there are less than 5 which provide what I would term "world class" or "best of class" type courses. They don't have the facilities like the bigger national schools do, but their instructors are "top-of-the-line" and provide value packed classes within the facilities restraint they operate under. So there are 3 million people in this area who have access to some top notch trainers within a 30 minute drive.
For those located in more sparsely populated areas and areas where the climate prevents year round training, I know it becomes an issue of time, distance and expense allocation to justify attending a structured training organization which might require overnight travel and several days of accommodations. I feel fortunate to live within 90 minutes of the school which started the civilian training school market way back when, by Col Cooper. Although Gunsite has fallen prey to multiple ownership since Jeff started it and has struggled to keep pace with others like Blackwater, nonetheless it was the model all others tried to copy and some have improved on. I haven't attended a class there for over 7 years, but still I feel good it is close and wish Mr. Mills the best in restoring Gunsite to a leadership position in the training schools industry.
Yes, besides taking classes in security, I've had to take firearms training classes to carry a firearm on the job. I've also just become certified through the NRA as a firearms instructor in pistol, rifle, shotgun, and home firearms safety. All in all over a hundred hours of classes and range time to qualify. What are you looking to do, get or give classes?
Wow, Eaglesix sound like you should be an instructor out there at "Frontsights" (I think in Nevada, around the Vegas area). I still think the NRA training courses are the best way to get started. From there you can go on to the "big boys" advanced or tactical training, if that's where your vocation leads you. The average armed citizen doesn't need all that, they need to learn SAFETY FIRST. There are already too many "Rambo" types out there with insufficent training, as well as regular folks who are just scared enough to buy a gun for self defense and then don't know how to use them or care for them. Wouldn't you agree?
blackwater and the sig academy offer some really good courses as well, they are pricey, but you get what you pay for, especially if you are looking for permits in ct and ma or fl, they accept very few classes as meeting their requirements to receive their respective state permits, but the sig academt courses are one of those few classes that are.