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Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by ciglecias, Aug 27, 2012.
Looking for a new ar...so figured what better place to get some opinions to help me make up my mind!
In addition, I would certainly look at Rock River Arms, Stag Arms and LMT! (Lewis Machine and Tool) All of these are excellent and some of the finest ARs made. And the RRA 2 Stage NM Trigger that comes standard in their rifles is "GREAT!" to say the least!!
Just some additional thoughts.
Yes I appreciate it I'm pretty much locked down to these three at the moment for this purchase! But will take those into consideration on my next purchase in the near future!
BCM would be the best "bang" (pun intended) for your buck IMO.
Everyone will have different opinions based on what they own and what they have shot . I have shot 9 different brands and as far as accuracy and dependability there just wasnt a lick of difference in the 100 rounds I put thru each of them besides the cosmetic looks of each. Now were only talking about 100 rounds but all of these guns have been previously shot and I cannot tell you the round count as they are not mine . Be smart buy what you can afford ., Now Im not telling you to go out there and buy the cheapest one you find because I dont suggest that . Buy a quality firearm in your price range and dont have any regrets in your purchase . Run all kinds of ammo thru it from cheap tula , wolf to match grade rounds and see what shoot good in your gun and go from there . Alot of people also ask . Whats the best gun for $1000? This is the million dollar question because it all depends on what your need are , do you want optics with that in $1000 range or are you going to need to buy sights with it ? How far will you be shooting ? Combat rifle or bench type shooter ? Barrel length 14.5, 16 18, 20, or 24" ? What caliber ? What tacticool accessories are you going to need on it ? Light, laser, scope, red dot, sling, handguard, etc ?
So many things to consider when purchasing a black rifle and so much to choose from it will leave your head spinning trying to figure all of this out. I could tell you I think brand X is better but someone else may say brand Y or Z is better .
Think about the above stuff a while and come back with what your wanting to use it for . I will say this just because a certain brand costs a higher dollar amount does not mean its the better choice.
Of your choices you have on there BCM would be the best choice for me . Why you ask ? Proven rifles , accurate, and dependable and lastly cheaper price wise than the others you listed and it would do everything I would ever need and I dont even own a BCM if that helps .
I understand your reply but it was just a generic question...I don't really have a price range just looking for a few opinions of people that may have owned or own these weapons that I can base my purchase. I realize there are numerous manufacturers of ars and it really boils down to personal preference...but regardless of what I'm going to use it fr there re people with opinions.
Then I'll give you a generic answer....bcm.
Why? Because it starts with b and therefore comes first.
True but opinions are like A holes , everyone has one
With well over 200 different manufacturers I highly suggest picking the roll mark on the side that you like thats in your price range so long as the rifle has the specs you want .
My generic personal preference for a battle rifle would be 14.5" or 16" mid gas , 1:8 twist chrome lined barrel , MPI / HPT tested F/A BCG ,Geisselle single stage trigger @ 3.5# , FSP , Magpul MOE stock and rear sight , Hogue overmold grip and a Troy TRX 9" handguard to top it off with a optics I would go with a Aimpoint Comp M3.
Bench rifle would be a whole different request for me and would not include much if any of the above
Now we are talking!
Remember of the guns you mentioned, LWRC weapons are piston operated, while BCM and Larue are direct impingement guns. I currently shoot 2 LWRC rifles, and both are exceptional guns. If you're going to go piston I would rank LWRC at or near the top. They are also expensive. Piston guns clean up much easier because you don't have a weapon that $h!ts where it eats, so to speak. If that's important to you, only you can decide. I find myself shooting my LWRC guns more because of this. The less time I have to spend cleaning after a lengthly range session with AR's, the better. If I ever purchased any more AR-15 rifles, they would be piston. Most likely I would try an LMT piston gun in .308.
Bills right the piston guns are just easier to clean and run cleaner , they both have their advantages and disadvantages , Piston is a little heavier yet easier to clean , I hear its big advantage is for full auto use.
DI guns are a little lighter , yet like Bill said they are dirtier in the upper and lower because of the pukeage they produce but thats not a big deal as long as you keep them clean .
All 3 are great guns you just have to choose yourself . Pick them up , hold and fondle them. Pull the trigger and see if there is one you like better than the other . Have a idea of what you want when you go in . Some dealers will direct you to the gun they make the most money off of some dont ,Just depends on your dealer .
Id throw noveske in the mix also
And keeping with tradition there is tact's feet and flops
I think I've decided on a kac e3 this time around not what I was going for but about to just order it and then the decision will be made!
Hmmmm that was quick and didnt even end up with what you had on your list ?
Have fun with it and stay safe
Depends on your budget.
I'd put a BCM up against a rifle costing twice what they do. And I'm serious.
EDIT: nm. OP made his mind up before I posted.
Or a PredatAR.
Id consider either or a JP if ib felt like buying a complete AR.
OR a Knight's Armaments. Damn Noveske...might consider that....
Jeez almost forgot about a NEMO. Mind's slipping mut b getting old....