Took My Mom To The Range Today . . .

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  1. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    So, my mom has been in town for around a week now. She has been talking about possibly getting a gun of some sort in her house for protection. My first thought is maybe a 20ga double barrel shotgun for simplicity's sake. Well we talk about it a lot and I decide to get out my wife's M&P9 and my S&W model 66, just to show her some basic handling and safety things.

    We decided to go to the range tonight. Now, she hadn't really ever shot a handgun before today. She has shot some long guns in the past. She said the last time was when she was sixteen. So that was a number of years ago. I approached it as if she were completely novice to everything related to firearms (essentially, she was).

    She did very well. She was very safe, and listened well to everything I said. We were just shooting some of my 9mm and .38 Special reloads. I load them all pretty mildly. Well she didn't really enjoy shooting the revolver. She said it was too heavy and she actually felt the recoil more. Well, that's understandable because it is .38 Special compared to 9mm, with the same size bullets. The .38 has a tad bit more powder behind it. I personally figured the weight of the .38 would make up for it, but I think what did it for her was the design of the gun. We all know semi-autos are built to reduce recoil slightly better.

    So, she only shot a couple rounds through the revolver. No big deal. She shot about 30 or so 9mm, and at first was a little scared of it and actually took her support hand (left) off the gun when it recoiled. I corrected her and she stopped doing it after another shot or two. After she got in the hang of it, she did very well. After a magazine she said she wasn't scared of it anymore.

    She seemed to have a really good time. I, of course, enjoyed taking her as well.

    I know, I know. Some of you are gonna say "why didn't you start her on a .22?" Well, I thought about it. But honestly I thought she could handle the relatively mild recoil of the 9mm in my wife's full sized M&P. She did, too, because she simply listened to what I was telling her about how to hold the gun and this and that and the other.

    Especially after tonight (but also before), I have absolutely no problem starting a new shooter on a full sized 9mm, as long as I think they're gonna listen very well. My mom did, and she had a great time, and is considering buying a handgun now. I of course explained the whole buying process. She wants to wait until I'm home to help her anyway, but she at least understands the process (hold a lot of guns first, rent some that feel the best, shoot it a couple times, then maybe buy it), so she wouldn't be lost if she had to do it on her own.

    All things considered, was a very good night. :) [sorry for the long post :( ]
     
  2. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    Oh, and after we shot, I decided to hold a couple different guns. I held a Kahr PM9, and a Sig P238. I had never held either before and was curious about them. I actually liked the feel of them both, in slightly different ways. I personally don't care for the .380 (not trying to piss anyone off, I just prefer the 9mm - especially since you can nowadays find 9mms in extremely small packages, barely bigger than a lot of .380s), so I think if I would prefer the P938, if I could find one (for a pocket gun). The Kahr felt pretty nice, and I can see the appeal for it.

    I'm not in the market to buy anytime soon, but I can definitely see the appeal to those guns.

    Oh, I also held a Ruger LCR in .38 Special. I liked that too, although I prefer the S&W cylinder release. Good feeling little gun, though.

    :confused:
     

  3. jimogden1984

    jimogden1984 New Member

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    Neither of my parents are gun people but I got my mom to go with me once. at that time all I had was a .357 snubby and a 1911. She handled 38s pretty well. She tried the 45 once and didn't like it as I warned her she probably wouldn't. she understands why i carry and is Ok with it. my dad is against guns all together and doesn't feel anyone should be able to carry and guns should only be used for hunting. I think he's a list cause when it comes to firearms.
     
  4. JW357

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    Interesting that your dad feels that way. I wonder why.

    After you took your mom, did she shoot anymore on her own or with friends? My mom sounds like she might actually go several times before picking out the gun she wants to buy (a good thing, of course). I just hope she goes with the right people who will continue helping her with her technique.
     
  5. jimogden1984

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    dad's pretty liberal. He likes big government, obamacare, thinks anyone who carries is a vigilante out looking for trouble and believes everything the media tells him. I love him but I sure wish he could see what's goin on in the world for what it really is instead of what he's told it is.

    mom hasn't shot since but id like to take her again sometime. That was a couple years ago. I'd like to take her again but it might be a while before I can go to the range myself cause my ears are still kinda screwed up and I'm worried about causing more damage before they fully heal. I've tried to talk her into getting a gun because she travels for work often, sometimes in not so great neighborhoods. She says she can't Tracy that quick and is afraid she would freeze in that crucial moment. And if that's the case then it's probably better she doesn't. It's definitely not for everyone. I got her a stun gun and she keeps that in her car
     
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  6. JW357

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    I can't imagine what it'd be like to have a very liberal parent. Both of mine are highly conservative. And guns are sort of in our blood. Despite my mom having not shot since she was sixteen, she grew up around guns and went hunting sometimes with her dad.

    i hope your ears heal. Is it because of the priming incident at work? Anyway, I wish you the best and a speedy(er) recover.
     
  7. jimogden1984

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    it sucks... and the worst part is he's the typical liberal and when I say something he's against there is no talking about it, no changing his mind, and no listening to the other side of things haha.

    and ya, it's the primers. It's a hell of a lot better but not there yet.
     
  8. sbeezy

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    You dad sounds like my mom. She has come around a little towards guns since we've bought several. But I mean a very little. As in she's not crapping her pants because there's a gun in the house. I tried having a conversation with her the other day about why gun free zones are fundamentally ridiculous and why people should be able to carry at work. It just turned into a mind numbing conversation of her refusing to understand why it should be okay, Especially since she works somewhere with the potential of a pissed off hot head coming in guns blazing.

    She also refuses to go shooting and almost freaked out when I tried to show her how to operate our 9mm in case of emergency. She doesn't understand what it means to have something and not need it and to need something and not have it. She would rather be a victim than kill to protect herself and others. That bothers me, especially since I'll be leaving soon and my dad often works nights. I may try to get her to learn the very basics before I go.

    I'm glad your mom isn't afraid of guns and it sounds like you had a nice outing.
     
  9. DrumJunkie

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    I have went back and forth with my mother for years about keeping a gun around. She used to keep a nightstand gun for years and all of a sudden she up and sells every gun in the house shortly after her husband died. She lives in a duplex with my brother but he has no idea how to use a gun and wont own one. I don't get along well with her but sure as hell don't want anything bad to happen to her. I don't understand the logic of either my brother or mother being their choice to live where they do. They keep saying to me "we've lived in the area for years and nothing as happened". Well, it has, they have been lucky to not be home when it did. but that don't matter :rolleyes:

    I'm glad you had a good range day with your Mom OP. This world is changing faster all the time and I do believe shooting is a good skill to posses in this day and age. I've only spent 50 years in this world but man it's so much different then the one I lived in as a child. And it was not all that safe then. AT least my kids seem more receptive to the idea that they are responsible for their own safety. I worry more about them and their children if/when they get to that point. It seems that the world changes faster every day, and not always for the better. Or maybe I'm just getting old and slow :eek:
     
  10. eatmydust

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    JW - Glad to hear that your mother is thinking clearly about her personal responsibility for her own safety. I know this helps to put your mind at ease.

    There is also the possibility of multi-generational family range time down the road. Keep up the good work!
     
  11. DeltaF

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    My mom lives in a house full of shooters. Literally. All my brothers and a few of my sisters plus my Dad are hunters. Dad is a cop, brother's been in and out of law enforcement. I am a cop and lived at home until 2 weeks before I got married.

    We carry all the time. There is nowhere that we go that we are not strapped. Sometimes there's 2 or 3 of us guys with 2 or 3 guns on and 2 or 3 in the car. We're not paranoid or psycho, it's just part of getting dressed for us, like a pair of shoes for some people.

    And we're not shy about using them either. Snakes, turtles, dogs, cats, the occasional Mexican construction worker in dad's tool shed. (Nobody ever got shot but till the house up the street got built they learned where the crazy folk lived.)

    Her dad was a hunter, several of her brothers and nephews were/are in the military, several of her nephews and some of her brother in laws are cops. And yet still, when one of us pulls a firearm out, Mom acts like its the end of the world. If she knows we're carrying, she gets all nervous and scared.

    Quite honestly its pathetic. Dad claims she can shoot. I've never seen her even touch a gun. For years she wouldn't even carry one of out extra cans of police issue spray because "it might hurt somebody." A common question from her is "what do you have that for?" Even though the answer is usually "because I'm not naked" or "because I'm allowed to have it.

    Or back years ago if we were in a bad neighborhood (happened a lot due to our travel path and the only available entertainment at the time) and she was acting nervous one of the kids would tell her "hey chill out mom you know dad and big brother all have guns" she'll tell them (to much groaning and rolling of the eyes) "I know that's what makes me so nervous." As if everybody else in the middle of the worst neighborhood for murders and gun crime in the entire state wasn't packing and we were just armed vigilantes looking for trouble.

    She chews us out every time she finds out we drew down on somebody. Even if it was at work on something like a felony traffic stop where it's required procedure.

    I am seriously jealous of you and your mom.
     
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  12. JW357

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    The thing is, after the range trip she admitted she was terrified of going. She said she was afraid of doing something wrong and shooting me. After the first couple shots, though, she realized that the safety things I was harping on were for a reason, and she started to enjoy it.

    She has never been anti-gun, per se, just lacked any sort of recent experience with them, which caused some fear at first.

    We all know, that'll ease up in time with more practice.

    I'm sorry your mother and brother are not receptive to the idea of securing their safety. It really is tragic in my mind. I pray nothing ever happens to them. Thanks for sharing.

    Yes, it definitely does help to put my mind at ease. I made a post a few months back about advice on a shotgun to get for her. It seems we're off to a good start.

    I didn't even think about muli-generational range trips. It'll be a few years before my kids are old enough to shoot, but I look forward to the day when kids, mommy and daddy, and grandma and others can all go and plink for awhile. I think it'll be great memories for them.

    I truly sorry your mom feels that way. I can't offer any advice, because her being around so many shooters and cops seems to me like it would have had a positive effect over the years. I guess not. There's nothing I can offer that you guys wouldn't have already tried, of course. Let's just hope it doesn't back-fire on her someday.
     
  13. JW357

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    Sorry your dad feels that way. Once again, I don't know what I would've done. Its interesting that you turned out the way you did, because I know parents have a huge impact on how their kids turn out. I know for a fact my parents being so conservative is part of the reason I was while growing up.

    Glad you're on the road to recovery.
     
  14. kbd512

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    My parents have never had any guns in the house and neither did their parents. My mother's father was an Army Korean War veteran and my father's father was in the 2nd Marine Division in WWII. Both of them were never the same afterwards, according to those who knew them who were stil alive after the wars. My mother's father was shot in the head in Korea and broke his spine somewhere on a mountain after slipping and falling on his back while carrying ammo cans up the mountain. Pretty much everyone my father's father knew was killed or injured in the pacific. He was studying to be a priest before the war. Needless to say, that didn't work out after the war. In any event, they both survived and lead productive lives as auto mechanics afterwards.

    So, their perspective on guns is a little different from many other people, which is why they never had any.
     
  15. jimogden1984

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    dad was a coon Hunter, never used anything other than a single shot 22 do he thinks That's all anyone should need. He was also kinda wild in his youth and said once he had been on both ends of a gun in bad situations so I think that might have something to do with it. him and my brother got me into coon and squirrel hunting and then I went from there on my own.