Too many lawyers

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Jo da Plumbr, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

    Lawyers vs Real People

    Problem identified

    This is very interesting! I never thought about it this way.

    The Democratic Party has become the Lawyers' Party.
    Barack Obama is a lawyer.
    Michelle Obama is a lawyer.
    Hillary Clinton is a lawyer.
    Bill Clinton is a lawyer.
    John Edwards is a lawyer.
    Elizabeth Edwards is a lawyer.

    Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did
    not graduate).

    Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd
    Bentsen, went to law school.

    Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress:

    Harry Reid is a lawyer.
    Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer.

    The Republican Party is different.
    President Bush was a businessman.
    Vice President Cheney was a businessman..
    The leaders of the Republican Revolution:
    Newt Gingrich was a history professor.
    Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist.
    House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer.
    The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.

    Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford,
    who left office 31 years ago. The Republican Party is made up of real
    people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers.

    The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men
    who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like
    Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich.

    The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and
    services that people want, as the enemies of America. And, so we have
    seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers'
    Party, grow.

    Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil
    companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large
    retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in
    our nation (and creating jobs).

    This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes
    of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their
    clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new
    laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to
    overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their

    Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an
    awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin
    to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing
    parties, then the role of the legal system in our life becomes
    all-consuming. Some Americans become "adverse parties" of our very
    government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action
    suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of
    freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers.

    Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions;
    we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our
    once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that
    place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most
    important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the
    Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big.
    When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by
    other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay,
    then the power of lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats
    sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies
    are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has
    become crushing.

    We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change, real reform
    or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which
    every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges
    is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we
    cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our
    defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not
    restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our

    Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our
    nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and
    business. Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the
    mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work.
    Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more
    power will only make our problems worse.

    The United States has 5% of the world's population and 66% of the
    world's lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in
    congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive
    damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as "spilling hot coffee on yourself
    and suing the establishment that sold it to you" and also to limit
    punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation
    has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat
    Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the
    American Trial Lawyers Association goes to the Democrat Party, then you
    realize who is responsible for our medical and product costs being so
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

    Rope, tree, politician. Some assembly required.

  3. TXnorton

    TXnorton New Member

    LOTS of rope, MANY Trees, ALL politicians, and MUCH assembly work required!
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

    Simple solution, reached by Virginia in 1645. Law passed by the Virginia General Assembly (the oldest continuous English speaking legislature in the world, by the way). Law basically said Yes- you CAN be a lawyer. Yes, you CAN practice law. NO- you may NOT charge for legal services. Funny- when da money goes away, so do most of the lawyers. :p
  5. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

    So lawyers cannot collect fees in Virginia? Or lawyers who are in the legistature cannot charge fees? Can they charge fees after they get out of the legislature? Inquiring minds want to know.
  6. cameronguyton

    cameronguyton New Member

    This country was built on hard work. We can handle it.

    ALSGUN New Member

    Great post, hard to change the laws when changing laws requires lawyers and changing laws would hurt lawyers....sorta like a dog chasing his
  8. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

    Robo- THE 1645 law (since repealled) did not permit ANY lawyer to charge for legal work. Members of the General Assembly were, for the most part, businessmen, and/or farmers. And that was the YEAR 1645. We've been here since 1607 (I worked for a police dept that was founded in 1618)