To dry fire or not, that is the question........

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by winds-of-change, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    My first gun was a GP100. On the day I bought that gun I also bought Snap Caps for it so I could practice with it at home. I never fire the GP100 without either snap caps in it or real ammo at the range.

    Now I have a Mark II and I was told to absolutely never dry fire it. Do I need to buy Snap Caps for this gun? And I don't understand how Snap Caps work in a semi-auto. Do they eject out and you have to refill the mag every ten shots? With the revolver, they just keep going around and around. No need to refill.

    Also, I do believe someone once posted how to make your own 'dry fire snap caps' with spent casings. Is there a way for me to do that with my .22?

    Thanks for any input or information you can share with me.
     
  2. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    DO NOT DRY FIRE LIST:
    Any rimfires
    Hammer-mounted firing pin revolvers

    PERFECTLY OKAY TO DRY FIRE LIST:
    All others

    Disclaimer: some exceptions may apply, but this is a general good rule of thumb when considering dry firing.

    Complete waste of money to buy snap caps for the GP100 in my opinion. Dry fire the hell outta that thing! There's a reason they call Ruger revolvers the Abrams tanks of the revolver world. And it ain't because they're too delicate to dry fire.
     

  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    WoC, cough up some $ and buy .22lr ammo.

    Don't dry fire your semi-auto. Have fun at the range with it.
     
  4. Glockpotion23

    Glockpotion23 New Member

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    I bought a pack for my Glock and no they dont eject like live ammo. You have to rack the slide after each trigger pull to eject the round.
     
  5. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    Dry-firing that Glock would save a lot of time having to reload those little snap caps. You're just wearing the mag springs out faster by using the snap caps.
     
  6. BigByrd47119

    BigByrd47119 New Member

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    To be completely honest, I would contact the manufacturer in each individual case. For example, I have 0 problems dryfiring a glock because the pro competition shooters do it all the time. My bersa's I dont dry-fire because the warranty service dept. has suggested that it can lead to problems. Kel-Tec's are another no-no company for dryfire.

    If your going to dryfire, use snap caps unless the manufacturer suggests that its ok not to. I consider all striker fired firearms to be ok to dryfire.
     
  7. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    its perfectly safe to dry fire the gp100 and the ruger mk2. the ruger mk2 and 3 and the original ruger semi auto 22lr are designed to be safely dry fired.

    in fact your supposed to dry fire the mk series as part of the disassembly procedure.

    not all 22lr are safe to dryfire but most modern 22lr are designed to be safe dry fired.

    the only centerfire hand guns and rifles that are NOT safe are the ones that have the firing pin on the hammer. you can tell because they hhave exposed hammers and there will be a spike on the hammer that slams into the primer.
     
  8. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Just as a general rule: NEVER dry fire a rimfire, regardless of whether or not it's supposed to be designed safe for it.

    Other than that, I would check with the manufacturer. Olympus said not to dry fire those with hammer mounted firing pins, but I called customer service for S&W and they told me that the only thing they make that cannot be dry fired is any of their rimfires, so I rip away with my .357 mag and no caps whenever I feel like it.
     
  9. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    you cant dissassemble a ruger mark 2/3 without dry firing it...
     
  10. Lindenwood

    Lindenwood New Member

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    Occasional dry-fires won't hurt it, otherwise everytime someone accidentally fires on an empty chamber they'd be causing damage. I think just as a rule one shouldn't attempt to actively practice via dry-fire on a rimfire gun.



    I've dry-fired my Raging bull like 8 or 9k times without problems :p .

    I'm on probably 500 with my 24/7, but I only got it like 3 weeks ago. I bet I hit 20k with my old PT92, though.
     
  11. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Unfortunately, I can't get to the range as often as I'd like.

    You're the only one who says this. I believe you. But I'm nervous I'm going to ruin my gun. I think I'll call Ruger and ask them. I know you have to dry fire it to dissassemble it but what about repeated dry firing?
     
  12. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    That is the biggie. Please post what you find out. Thanks.
     
  13. BenLuby

    BenLuby New Member

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    Want the answer directly from Ruger?

    Ruger Frequently Asked Questions

    There ya go.

    Direct from the Ruger site.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2011
  14. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    If you don`t have a snap cap, never dry fire a firearm. (EVER)
     
  15. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    Huh?

    I would say there are thousands of gun owners who would disagree with that statement, myself included. But you go ahead and waste money on snap caps. What is it they say? Something about a horse and water....???
     
  16. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    BenLuby New Member

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    Glad to be of help.
     
  18. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    I don`t use snap caps & I don`t dry fire period. Hows that ?

    The first post was for John Q. Public, take it with a grain of salt .......
     
  19. Gordo323

    Gordo323 New Member

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    I've recently started practicing by dry firing with a laser bore sight installed, keeping the sight picture and laser dot on the center of target and trying to keep it there while pulling the trigger.
    Haven't been doing it very long, but have already seen a substantial improvement at the range. I'm sold on dry firing!
     
  20. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    There is nothing wrong with dryfiring a gun that can take it. If Ruger says you can dry fire their rimfires, go right ahead, you wont be violating any kind of abuse clause on their warranty.

    As far as the take down procedure for the Mk series Ruger .22, if you have to do it to dissass it, go right ahead. If Ruger says do it for practice go right ahead.

    As for me, I wont do it, just because it's habit. I would be more likely to invest in a box of ammo and hit the range. I understand if you can't shoot as much as you want, Lord knows I don't get the opportunity as much as I want.
    Habits are hard to break.