Tired of the Steel cased Misinformation

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Dahamp2003, May 7, 2014.

  1. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    I don't know it all. I don't claim to know a lot. I'm not an expert, and I'm not a super competitive shooter. I'm familiar with firearms and enjoy them, and I'm also not made of money. I clean my weapons everytime I shoot them. My name is Brock and I'm tired of hearing crap about steel cased ammunition.

    Lmao, now that that's out of the way, why does EVERYONE repeat that steel cased ammunition is crap? I understand if you're squeezing the last MOA or 1/4MOA of accuracy out of your bench gun. But I swear, if I hear another freakin person at the range say you really shouldn't put steel cased ammo in your rifle, I'm gonna flip out on somebody haha. RO today said that. Well, considering I have my rifle set up for run and gun type stuff (Lightweight, RDS, CTR stock, etc....I'm probably not concerned as much with hitting a 2" steel plate at 4 gazillion yards. It is dirty. I get it. But it's not 50 bucks dirty. Because that's what I saved by shooting it instead of brass at the range today. It's unreliable. Riiiiiight. Maybe in your gun, with a barrel that you couldn't pull a greased string out of a cats butt with. If I can group 2" at 100 yards with it, because I care less inside of that, then who cares?

    Here's the thing Mr. RO who wants to tell me how to run my damn rifle.....I've put probably 5000 rounds through mine, about 80% steel cased ammo, on courses, running it as hard as I know how to run it. I've never had ONE single malfunction. Not ONE. I know that I will have one one day. But that's pretty damn good to me so far, and I've saved enough money with the steel to buy another rifle if I want. It'll damage your extractor.....sure dude, and a loaf of bread with damage your car if you run over it. It's SOFTER STEEL. Rounds will get stuck in the chamber because of the lacquer coating. Um, not mine. Ran about 500-600 rounds through mine with a slidefire in about 45 minutes and smoke was pouring out of the handguards to the point where you couldn't hold it. I know, I know. But it's mine and I'll destroy it if I want.

    I buy guns to shoot them. I buy guns to get BETTER shooting them. I'm no expert shooter, but I've come a long way since that first shot. So if mine have dings, scratches, dirt, oil, carbon, or anything else on them, so be it. Shows I don't take it in an indoor range, shoot 3 mags off a bench at 25 yards with some 80 dollar a box Hornady (good stuff, don't get me wrong, just not at 25 yards. Makes negligible difference) and call it a day. And then tell other people how to run their crap. Dude. That gun has never seen sunlight. STFU and shoot in your lane. Or stand there and watch from behind on your chair. I don't care, but let me live my life.

    Rant over. Thanks for listening. I'd go buy a new barrel now but wait mine's still running. Guess I'll clean her. She's been bad.:eek:
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    honestly, my thoughts are somewhat similiar. if steel cased ammo works, run it!

    some rifles may have problems with it, some won't. all i can say is try it out.

    and as far as someone saying that steel cased ammo is unreliable, well, even brass cased ammo has problems as well, so that argument IMO isn't really valid.

    and now Hornady is offering some calibers in match grade steel cased ammo.

    and there are those who say steel cased ammo runs dirtier. well i have seen brass cased ammo that ran pretty dirty as well. which for most of us isn't that relevent as we tend to clean and maintain our guns anyway. right?
     

  3. Dahamp2003

    Dahamp2003 New Member

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    Yes. Are people really that lazy that they need to run 4,000 rounds through their rifles without cleaning? If you're in Afganistan, I get it.

    By the way, Winchester White Box come to mind when you say dirty brass. It dirties up my 9mm worse than Tula.
     
  4. DrFootball

    DrFootball disappointed & disgusted, But DETERMINED... Lifetime Supporter

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    On a Rifle for target or Hunting, or for SHTF,..yeah, no prob. I will use it if I need to keep running that Gun & Caliber. I do avoid it in Handguns, esp. My EDCC, but I have shot Steel Cased 9MM through my 9MM AR...


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  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    I dont like it because it isnt reusable. People that use it tend to just leave it on the ground and aftr a bit it creates a huge mess. If they were using brass i could pick it up and use it for loading.
     
  6. Eagle1803

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    They can keep the steel case ammo, just like Jon said you can't reload it.

    Also I have seen it swell up in a rifle chamber....not good

    If it was that good everybody would be buying it, and alot of people do because the price is cheaper, but people buy cheap tires for their car also, but not me.:D
     
  7. hiwall

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  9. chloeshooter

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    I have never had an issue with steel case ammo in either a handgun or a rifle

    I HAVE had aluminum cased 9mm cause problems (CZ 75, apparently very common)
     
  10. hiwall

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    Like many things, whether to use steel case ammo is just a personal decision that does not effect anyone but yourself. I see very little point in arguing about it. I choose not to use steel ammo. I made this decision based on absolutely nothing except my own personal feelings of bias against it. :)
     
  11. John_Deer

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    I shoot steel case ammo in everything but my 30/06. If I could replace the 30/06 by just buying a new gun I would shoot steel case ammo for practice. Over the life of a rifle you will save over $1,000 to replace the rifle.

    When I break in a new semi auto rifle or pistol I use steel case ammo. Steel case ammo will polish out casting marks and other imperfections that are soft metal/slag.
     
  12. CJx

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    Hi Brock...
     
  13. Ibmikey

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    Buy all the steel case ammo you want, does not bother me and the fact I shoot only brass cased ammo has no bearing on the OP's original rant but boy do I feel good.
     
  14. GTX63

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    I've had two stove pipes in my RI AR 15. One steel cased Tula and one brass reload. Both occurred, in my opinion, because I didn't properly clean the rifle after I bought it. Got it home from the store, reached into my gun closet and grabbed whatever 223 ammo I could grab and headed out to the timber. Once I cleaned and oiled it properly, I could probably fire rocks without a jam.
     
  15. Eagle1803

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    You sound like me, the temptation is to great and the heck with everything else.....I am shootin this AR cause I love it:D
     
  16. colmustard

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    I perfer brass, but I also reload. You hoot what you want, it is a free country. As far as people telling you how to run your rifle I feel ya. I know a few guys who seem to always know everything and whatever they say is the only way. They never let you speak and they are quick to correct. What can you do though, just keep trying to have fun and enjoy the sport. :)
     
  17. Mercator

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    It looks like none of you read Jeng Tao Tzu. "Wise men", he wrote, "will shoot bamboo arrows while hard wood is in short supply; and thus will achieve victory in the absence of an adversary!"

    Come on guys :)
     
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  18. therewolf

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    IMO, given the proper circumstances, steel ammo is OK. Personally,

    I prefer it in the looser combloc actions. At the price, it's OK

    for emergency stash ammo.

    I reload, also, so brass is more valuable to me, too, but in guns

    which aren't too finicky, steel is a fine alternative.
     
  19. alsaqr

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    My ARs run well on steel cased ammo. i have a huge supply of military brass cased ammo; otherwise i would use steel cased stuff exclusively.
     
  20. Sgt_Skrb_25

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    I run steel through my 7.62x39 build exclusively too, that's why I built it, to save money. The only thing I worry about is the salt eating the barrel. As long as you neutralize the barrel and clean it ASAP, there are no issues. I've ran 1K plus through it and it is still running like a champ. I hear the same comments all the time, but my boom stick will outrun most running steel. It's yours and do what you want with it. ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1399898883.122277.jpg


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