It seems like every discussion about Mini14's turns into a Mini14 vs AR15 thread. OK, they each have their pros and cons so why the hate? I own several of each and like them all. And they all shoot fine. The main limitation for me is the ballistics of the 5.56x45 round. I like a round with a bit more balls if I'm going to use it past about 300 yards. At that range both work fine. One of the things I liked about the Mini when I first tried it was the weight. Was it accurate enough for 300 yard shots on ground squirrels? Not really. But neither was an almost comparably light weight CAR 15. But both worked on jackrabbits and yotes. Mini 14 mags were always expensive, and M16 mags were very affordable. Mini 14 mags are slower and take more skill to change than AR mags. But I have had far more malfunctions in AR's than in Minis (but the advent of the Defender "D" Ring solved that). And every one I've had with the Mini was crappy mag related. I've never had a Mini14 malfunction with a Ruger mag. Never. Traditionalists seem to like Mini14's. And if you want one to be really accurate, bed the action and do a trigger job. Maybe send it to Accuracy Systems? If an entry level AR is more your speed, by all means get one. I like both platforms. I also like constructive conversations about guns. Not posts intended to flame, ambush or incite. To borrow a question from Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"